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Re: Fearing the demise of Perl

by zentara (Archbishop)
on May 21, 2004 at 14:11 UTC ( [id://355280]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Fearing the demise of Perl

What I see happening is the "dilution of brains" in the universities. In order to let all the idiots get degrees, they have been "passing on curves" for quite some time, and the result is that the colleges and universities are full of people who have no technical aptitude at all, but they all want "high paying engineering jobs"(after all it's their right isn't it? :-) ). So they are pushing languages which make it a no-brainer to program with point and click interface for everything. They say the same thing about C. The C++ people say "C is obsolete, don't bother with it", but you can see that C++ is more likely to die before C will. I doubt that they will ever write an good OS in C++.

Perl will never die, even though there are alot of ignorant corporate executives who are trying to kill it. They try to kill and discredit what makes them look ignorant. If they passed some "law against Perl", there would be a whole underground which would keep it going.


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Re: Re: Fearing the demise of Perl
by BUU (Prior) on May 21, 2004 at 18:07 UTC
    Going completely off topic (not that we really have a topic here..)

    They say the same thing about C. The C++ people say "C is obsolete, don't bother with it", but you can see that C++ is more likely to die before C will. I doubt that they will ever write an good OS in C++.
    Could you explain this please? I keep saying statements like this, or expressing similar sentiments regarding C vs C++, and I never understand them. To my mind, C++ is just C with a few additions (new/delete, class, templates), so what makes C better then C++? Since, as far as I know, any C program is a valid C++ program (with the exception, of course, of C programs that use C++ keywords, which is a stupid "exception"), so what makes C so much better?

    I personally see C++ as better, firstly because I prefer new/delete vs malloc/free, just semantically. Secondly because I like OO programming, so I tend to use it in most of my "larger" projects, and having to deal with lots of "OO" code written in C has made me bitter.
      C++ is C with a few additions, but they are huge additions. Objects are a big change with all kinds of complexity. Templates are big and complicated.

      Sure, C++ can be used a better C. But the OO is the big benefit and that is a big change.

      Objective-C is a much better example of small extensions to C.

        Well, ok, so objects are a big addition. But it's just that, an addition. Why couldn't you write an operating system, or a device driver, in c++?
Re^2: Fearing the demise of Perl
by xCodexWarriorx (Acolyte) on Sep 10, 2004 at 13:45 UTC
    I doubt that they will ever write an good OS in C++.

    Yes they will, and they already have, considering all C code is C++ legal :-p.

    Okay, I know what you actually meant, and I think I agree. I haven't done extensive testing myself, but from what I've heard, the overhead of objects would prohibit something as performance-oriented as an OS.

    I also agree about the whole 'dilution' thing...I took a VB class in high school, and the teacher made me comment the function for the 'quit' button, which was as follows:

    sub buttonQuit_Click() frmForm.Close() end sub
    She told me I had to comment it so 'future maintainers of my code would know what the function did.' My jaw dropped, arguments ensued, and I stopped taking computer courses at my high school.

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