Thanks for all the help so far, lets toss in another catch, this is running on a windows machine....are there any gatch ya's? If I do not call use "Thread;" I cannot do the $t1 = new Thread \&sub1; And if I include both "use Thread;" and "use threads;" I receive a lot of "...XXX is redfined..." It sucks being a noobie to Perl lol. My humble gratitude my masters.