in reply to Re: Dreamig in Perl
in thread Dreaming in Perl

I doubt you ever had a dreamless night. You just don't remember the dreams. From what I've read about the subject the brain needs the dreams, to ease the strain, to filter and reprocess what happened, to forget, to remember ... You could have serious problems if you did NOT dream.

I agree though that some walks and/or meditation (a nice lonely walk is a just meditation in motion :-) to clear ones head are good. Anything that'll help you fall asleep instead of rotating in the bed for hours rethinking your day/life is good. It's these halfdreams that drain ones strength. (Especially if you are a depressive fellow like me.)

I'm having problems with this, especially during autumn+winter. I can't get up in the morning, I can't fall asleep in the night and all the time I feel like crawling into a cave and sleeping till the spring comes. I'll try if phototherapy helps.


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Re: Re: Re: Dreamig in Perl
by kodo (Hermit) on Dec 02, 2002 at 11:33 UTC
    Well I think you're right, we usually do dream almost every night. I only had the feeling of those non-dream-nights when I did meditate lots over a weekend for example. This way all that stuff in my brain went by during meditation where the brain is a a very similar state like while sleeping but with your mind awake. It all passes by finally and you can come to the point where it all stops. This of course needs time of course but I had that experience and I guess in that state of mind you have dreamless nights.
    About walks I think it's an important point to NOT think about it all while walking, instead let it all pass by and just concentrate on the walk itself, then it can be like meditation yes.
    I also had similar problems to you for some time but it just got better and better...and I'm pretty sure it got better because I finally changed my way of live in lots of ways...
    You have to find the roots of that problem not fight the symptoms. In my case the problem simply was that I completly had lost the connection to nature and was living "online" more than I really lived. I also think food is an important point, and maybe the most important thing is to find back to calmness and not always hear/see something...find back to the root of all things.


      Sometimes you have to fight the symptoms to get the strength to even look at the roots. I know what the roots are and I know some of them are not solvable. I just have to learn to live with them. But I'm not going to speak about them here.


      Depression is an altogether too complex subject to generalize a solution like that. The western way of life does foster situational depression, which your tips are very helpful with, but it's far from the only cause. I do agree that the overwhelming majority of those who suffer would be better off with some help in changing their style of life than the nowadays so easily prescribed medication, but don't discard the fact that for some, finding a cure is not as simple.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

        Hi Aristotle,

        of course I have to agree. With my tips I just wanted to show what helped me, but nothing can be a general solution for anything. There simply are no general solutions in this world, everyone has to find his own way of live and find out what's good/bad for him...