Re: (pmas) Re2: use strict and warnings for newbies

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Yes, well such an obstacle course may protect the exxalted ones from having to (once again) answer the (sigh) same questions, but perhaps that's not the goal here. Present too high a threshold and you'll likely prevent people from participating.

This is not the Perl Monks I've come to know and respect. Perhaps it's just me, but I've come to think of PM as inclusionary and (okay, okay, I know what this sounds like) nurturing, rather than elistist and exclusionary.

Granted, the XP system is weighted toward those who are more active; but with limited exceptions, these include exactly the people who should be given respect and more responsibility herein.

Just my $0.02 ...

dmm

Just call me the Anti-Gates ...

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(pmas) Re3: use strict and warnings for newbies by pmas (Hermit) on Aug 31, 2001 at 18:22 UTC
You are right, treshold XP 5000 will prevent many people from participating...;-) But treshold of plain simple XP 20 or even 50 will not, and will lower the noise level some. Even more important, I am sure I myself will feel it as a friendly guide on my first steps in PM, preventing me from embarrasment, pointing into places where gems are stored, ways to find them, and not as a nuisance. It will also give new meanings to term "initiate" and "novice": after XP 20 you are done with initiating, we do not need to remind you all the time about basics stuff - you are experienced enough to do it yourself... ;-) It is exactly nurturing and inclusionary in the internet terms - empowering you to help yourself, when and how you need it, instead waiting to some expert to help you. It is about collecting and preserving knowledge of our community in a non-elitist manner, meaningful also for first-time users. Everybody can still bypass suggestions and post even most stupid question answered in FAQ, and somebody will still answer it (in friendly manner, I am sure), pointing to same FAQ), because person might missed something. Or do you feel that even XP 20 is way too high? pmas To make errors is human. But to make million errors per second, you need a computer.	[reply]

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(pmas) Re3: use strict and warnings for newbies
by pmas (Hermit) on Aug 31, 2001 at 18:22 UTC

But treshold of plain simple XP 20 or even 50 will not, and will lower the noise level some. Even more important, I am sure I myself will feel it as a friendly guide on my first steps in PM, preventing me from embarrasment, pointing into places where gems are stored, ways to find them, and not as a nuisance.

It will also give new meanings to term "initiate" and "novice": after XP 20 you are done with initiating, we do not need to remind you all the time about basics stuff - you are experienced enough to do it yourself... ;-)

It is exactly nurturing and inclusionary in the internet terms - empowering you to help yourself, when and how you need it, instead waiting to some expert to help you. It is about collecting and preserving knowledge of our community in a non-elitist manner, meaningful also for first-time users.

Everybody can still bypass suggestions and post even most stupid question answered in FAQ, and somebody will still answer it (in friendly manner, I am sure), pointing to same FAQ), because person might missed something.

Or do you feel that even XP 20 is way too high?

pmas
To make errors is human. But to make million errors per second, you need a computer.

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