I would expect perl's rise to be smaller as time goes on over a short period of time, considering C to be more actively used most of the older languages.

Python I would expect to be sharper as it is still a bit younger than perl. As for java, there are a lot of various backers in java. IBM, Sun, Apache (jakarta), Apple and so on. It's considered more of a biz language. Also, the upgrades are faster. So you may have found links for java 1.1 1.2 1.3.1 1.4 and 1.4.1. I'm sure I missed a version # in there somewhere. You also have achedemia which is switching to java, a good enough portion of it, to teach algorithms in it.

perl ist simply a solution that's been around for a long time, and as perl6 comes out, we'll prolly see a sharper jump then.

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All other monks. For those of you who consider mr wasser automatic for flames, think of the time when you were "young and foolish". I know the young part is a compliment Wassercrats. But he brought up a valid point using some statistics. His analysis is shallow to say the least, and I'd consider it not-read-into-enough. Too simplistic. But that gives NONE of you the right to treat him less than a human being.

Quite frankly, I think wassercrats isn't going to be an uber-perl hacker or team leader in the next few months. He still has a lot to learn in his attitudes on programming. And I've told him before, you should at least consider what people say, but if he doesn't want to do certain things, that's his will. The only outcome is possibly bad code. So to you who have begged him to leave, what makes you any better that you should stay here yourselves? Are you too good to teach others the errors in their ways? Do you not know how to properly refute an argument? Do you not know how to interact with the community? At least wassercrats has the due dilligence to try and makes some sense of things. It's not always right, but he tries. And that's certainly worth a lot more than your unneeded flames.

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