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Re: Perl Monks good for Beginners?

by Ducati (Beadle)
on May 31, 2001 at 16:17 UTC ( #84524=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Perl Monks good for Beginners?

I am a newbie ... really new to Perl. I have been around Perlmonks for 2 months or so and these are my thoughts:

It is much better than IRC or the newgroups. The community, in general, is a lot more understanding and there seems to be a lot less ego thrown around.

However, like anything else in life there are some people that come across very negative, confrontational and in some instances down right mean (I say "come across" because one has to remember that text can be misinterpreted from what is actually ment, there is not emotion attached like speech). In my experiences people at Perlmonks have been kindly helpfull and positive.

There are rules and one has to learn them: Everybody makes mistakes and sometimes has to be told. From what I have seen, and experienced, most monks kindly point out the one's error and suggest corrections or point them in the right direction. Again, there are others who go off on a rant and flame or downvote or just demean the newbie. That is not cool ... it doesn't stimualte a postive environment for learning. All it does is make the newbie feel like shit and makes them feel stupid ... and who likes to feel that way ??

Being a newbie is tough: One is trying to learn something new. I feel that a positive attitude and patience from fellow Monks really helps. Some people often forget that they were not born experts and had to start somewhere. This is not a competition, we are all here to learn. Demeaing a newbie is not a way to strengthen the community, it only causes more problems. Who wants to stick around when they are constantly made to feel inferiour ... not I.

I have replied to a few articles on this subject, because I am a newbie. Also, I want other newbies to feel comfortable here at Perlmonks becuase I feel that it is a great place for EVERYBODY who even glances at Perl. I want to see the community grow and with growth comes more knowledge ... and that is the key. We need new people who will, one day, become experts. If they are brought up in a positive community and are shown respect and patience then they will do the same to others as they grow.

I would like to take oppurtunity now to thank some monks that have helped me and made my time here plesent. The folling monks have not only helped me but have also been patient, kind and understanding. This is a big deal for me, I hate when people take the "Holier than thou" attitude and try to make up for thier insecurities by attacking newbies and non-newbies alike. This is not a healthy attitude in a community that exists for the sole reason to expand knowledge.

So thanks:

chipmunk, footpad, jerones, Jouke, merlyn, arturo, Albannach, Chemboy, et al.

I have forgot to mentioned anybody, please forgive me ... and thanks to you to !!

Update: I forgot to thank tye !! That was the one name that I couldn't remember ... sorry :-)

Ducati ... speaking up for the newbie.


"We rock the body to rock the party ... until the party rocks the body"

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