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What Are You Doing For Perl?

by Anonymous Monk
on Aug 06, 2009 at 14:38 UTC ( [id://786451]=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I just added a Perl example to the Wikipedia page for the Bridge Pattern.

What are you doing to advocate your language?

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Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Aug 06, 2009 at 15:52 UTC
    • I don't shoot people from a tower with a high powered rifle screaming, "I do this for Perl!!!"
    • I pants Ruby developers at conferences and tie tin cans to the bumpers of the modestly priced imports Python developers can afford. When they look silly, their languages look silly.
    • I put 500 iron nails into a goat head spelling out "Java Die" on the last new moon.
    • I make an effort to begin every sentence I write about Perl with "I."
    • I write apologist tracts for Perl 4 style and the continued use of cgi-lib.
    • I am extremely proud of how humble I am regarding my amazing Perl skills.
    • I have uploaded 23 "patches" to PHP containing security bugs.
    • I ask Matt Trout at least once a week to stop swearing so much as it lessen the impact of the profanity I place in my own presentations and code comments.
    • I never use warnings or strict as reliance on good practices weakens the Perl gene pool and makes us susceptible to invasion.
      A sense of humor is ALWAYS required! :D Someone give this man a ++ for me.
      I don't shoot people from a tower with a high powered rifle....
      I'm surprised this node has received such a high vote. I personally don't find any humor in callous references to tragic shooter incidents like Charles Whitman.

      Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

        Whereas I'm surprised your node only received five downvotes. Is not 43 years long enough to start to consider something fair play? If not, may I commend you to the comedy stylings of one Anthony Jeselnik and recommend burying or at least cremating your sense of humor before it goes any gamier?

Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by ssandv (Hermit) on Aug 06, 2009 at 15:36 UTC
    I reject your premise.

    Perl is a tool. So is Python. So is Ruby. So is C. So is a hammer. I don't advocate Perl when a hammer is more useful. The object is to get stuff done, not to win some farcical language war. Perl gets stuff done. I know several people who know Perl reasonably well, but like Ruby or Python better for syntactic reasons--and that's fine, if they can get stuff done. If it hurts their brain to read sigils (and some people feel that way very strongly), I'm not reasonably going to sell them on Perl.

    What am I doing for Perl? Getting stuff done with it, and when people ask me how I did it, I'm showing them, and explaining how Perl helped. I'm answering questions when I can, and reading the answers of others when I don't know them. Continuing to learn the language so that I can do more, and help more.

    What am I *not* doing? Anonymously posting inflammatory rhetoric. That'd be doing *to*, not doing *for*.
      If it hurts their brain to read sigils (and some people feel that way very strongly)
      Heh. That was me about 10 years ago. At that time, I was doing a lot of text processing in gawk, and, when pushed, it just wasn't up to the task. I'd looked at Perl several times, but was always put off by the sigils. "it's just BASIC on steroids" were my thoughts at the time.

      So, I turned to Java, but (lucky for me) it didn't have the regex support I needed.

      Eventually, I bit the bullet, and started with Perl and it's fugly sigils.

      It was the best decision I've ever made. It didn't take very long before I was asking myself "how the hell did I ever cope with being a C programmer? I've learnt other languages since learning Perl, but it's always Perl I return to.

      Back to the original topic

      I've added MooseX::Declare to the wikipedia page.

        Comparing the two additions, I really think the one added by our anonymous whiner should just be removed (it didn't display $_ correctly for me, but mostly is just sucks in comparison to the MooseX::Declare one and it seems silly to have two Perl examples on such a non-Perl-specific page).

        - tye        

        "Eventually, I bit the bullet, and started with Perl and it's fugly sigils. "

        I guess now you think they're Funky!

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Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by Limbic~Region (Chancellor) on Aug 06, 2009 at 14:59 UTC
    Anonymous Monk,
    Reposted from my use.perl blog with a few updates to make it current.

    Update: Lest anyone think I posted this for impure reasons, let me explain. Some people have time or money but don't know what to do and this list might give them some ideas. Others might feel that they don't think they could possibly make a meaningful contribution and some of these items on the list show small things like spending your time on someone else can have an impact. Perhaps someone will become inspired to fill out a survey too or just blog about perl. People can do more than they realize.

    • I try to perpetuate the culture and enrich the community that attracted me to Perl a little over 6 7 years ago and hasn't let go.
    • I spend time working on other people's problems for no other reason than to help
    • I have written a CPAN module
    • I have written dozens of patches and emailed other authors about improvements to their code
    • I have written an article published on perl.com
    • I have answered thousands of questions on PerlMonks and an unknown number on IRC
    • I have written a half a dozen tutorials on PerlMonks
    • I have a Perl related blog
    • I hang out on places where new comers go such as PerlMonks and IRC and help them along - often times pointing them to resources
    • I attend conferences
    • I talk about Perl to anyone who will listen - online or in meatspace
    • I am honest when I talk about Perl and I think that is important. It isn't all roses and I don't pretend otherwise.
    • In addition to enriching and perpetuating the community, I also support the developement and advances of the language to keep it relavent
    • I have contributed a patch to perl 5 (albeit a short doc fix)
    • I have filed bug reports
    • I fill out surveys when people ask for input on improving things
    • I have contributed code to both Parrot and Pugs and to Rakudo via test cases
    • I have asked questions on the Perl 6 mailing list
    • I have built and tested Parrot on platforms such as Win32/Cygwin and Win32/MinGW which seem to be step children but are important to someone
    • I have publicly and privately provided funding to developers to work on the future of perl
    • I have donated time, money and code to The Perl Foundation
    • I have donated money to PerlMonks
    • I am teaching perl for free to those willing to sacrifice their lunch hour

    I am not sure what else I would have time to be doing. If you, or anyone else, has an idea of what I could better spend my time on to help I am all ears. I could certainly write articles for perl.com but it would come at the cost of not spending time on PerlMonks or on IRC - I am tapped out of time so changing WHAT I do with that time is the only offer I can make.

    Cheers - L~R

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Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by moritz (Cardinal) on Aug 06, 2009 at 15:19 UTC
    I can't hold up with Limbic~Region's impressive list, but I did and do a few things (not sorted by anything).
    • I write tests for Perl 6 (mostly) and Perl 5 (a few)
    • I wrote some CPAN modules
    • I answer perl questions on perlmonks, in two other boards and on IRC
    • I blog about Perl, mostly Perl 6
    • I contributed various small fixes, doc fixes and enhancements to perl and several modules
    • I give other perl hackers feedback on their work, websites and blog posts
    • I try to be nice
    • I mentored a Google Summer of Code project for TPF
    • I provide infrastructure for other perl hackers: administer servers, offer public IRC logs, write websites etc.
    • I teach Perl 6 to anybody willing to listen :-)
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Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by afoken (Chancellor) on Aug 08, 2009 at 17:04 UTC
    • use Perl
    • show Perl code around
    • create new projects using Perl
    • help learning Perl, here and elsewhere
    • help solving Perl problems, here and elsewhere
    • report bugs, with patches where possible
    • improve Perl and Modules

    Alexander

    --
    Today I will gladly share my knowledge and experience, for there are no sweeter words than "I told you so". ;-)
Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by JavaFan (Canon) on Aug 08, 2009 at 17:01 UTC
    I just added a Perl example to the Wikipedia page for the Bridge Pattern.
    And this is helping Perl in which way?
Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by stevieb (Canon) on Feb 06, 2018 at 15:48 UTC

    My original content completely missed the true point of this thread, so I redacted it. If I get a chance to update my post, I will.

Re: What Are You Doing For Perl?
by Anonymous Monk on Aug 09, 2009 at 03:03 UTC

    Merely posting online about coming up with a Perl-based solution to something is a small contribution.

    "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."

    -- Oscar Wilde

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