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I don't do much programming any more - still play round with Perl but busy busy busy nowadays with baby Emily Isabella born on 16th Oct 2005. If someone has a module for changing nappies please let me know. I remember my (brief) programming career with fondness as a time I learnt that I wasn't cut out to be a programmer. Back to my old job in support. Hey someone has to tell the users to reboot.... Love to all at the monastery. Andrew