Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by tilly (Archbishop) on Aug 31, 2008 at 04:29 UTC
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What is a "Perl programmer"? If you're a sysadmin who uses Perl, are you a Perl programmer? If you're a DBA who sometimes cleans data with Perl, are you a Perl programmer? If you are a biologist who uses and occasionally tinkers with tools written in Perl, are you a Perl programmer?
It is kind of vague.
Anyways if you want an estimate, Comparative Language Job Trend Graphs is informative. Unfortunately absolute numbers aren't to be found there, and there is reason to believe that it might be skewed towards technical jobs. But let's say that there are 100 million jobs out there that are distributed like those graphs say. Then about a million people have jobs which have Perl somewhere in the job description. 300,000 have jobs that say "software engineer" and mention Perl. over 100,000 have jobs whose description includes "Perl developer". And a similar number have jobs whose description includes "Perl programmer".
Let's sanity check that. According to http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos110.htm there are about 435,000 computer programmers in the USA. With my hundred million people estimate, if I add up the "foo developer" ads, that roughly matches the number of programmers in the USA. Of course not all ads for a programmer will say "foo developer", but the USA is not the whole world either. So I'd guess that the numbers I've given are on the high side, but not by too much. | [reply] |
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With my hundred million people estimate
I think you mean 100 thousand people.
Thanks very much for the figures.
Lyle
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by Lawliet (Curate) on Aug 31, 2008 at 01:40 UTC
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Like those who have not yet been freed from The Matrix
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by ikegami (Patriarch) on Aug 31, 2008 at 01:38 UTC
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There are 10x, for some base "x".
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by renodino (Curate) on Aug 31, 2008 at 15:38 UTC
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At this year's State of the Onion, Mssr. Wall stated that all programming languages are just dialects of
Perl 6.
Ergo, all programmers are Perl programmers.
Perl Contrarian & SQL fanboy
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bingo, BTW, when will Perl 6 make official debut?
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by moritz (Cardinal) on Aug 31, 2008 at 20:36 UTC
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cpan-mirror/authors/id$ find . -mindepth 3 -type d |wc -l
4129
So we have a bit more than 4000 CPAN authors. How many perl programmers actually publish stuff on CPAN? perhaps 1%? So my rough guess is 5e5, or half a million.
Other sources you could use, if you had access to them (you might actually some of the numbers somewhere on the internet): perl.org and cpan.org access statistics, perl book sales, perlmonks.org registered users, *comp.lang.perl.* posting statistics, rt.{perl,cpan}.org statistics (number of distinct email addresses), ...
All those have in common that you still get no really good numbers, but you might get a feeling for the order of magnitude. | [reply] [d/l] |
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Nice. This is a pretty insightful census method. FWIW, I recall seeing the number 2 million bandied about a few years ago but don't recall where (here?) or its qualification. If you count those who use Perl for some reason, some of the time, at work, I suspect even 2 million is conservative.
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2 million is still a small country. I think we should have our own flag. paco for president! :)
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Aug 31, 2008 at 20:51 UTC
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There are enough that there are hundreds (if not thousands) of companies that use Perl on a regular basis, but not enough that all the jobs are filled. Therefore, there are just the right number for me to make a very good living in a language I love working in. Nuff said.
My criteria for good software:
- Does it work?
- Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by zentara (Archbishop) on Aug 31, 2008 at 13:06 UTC
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There's one hiding under every rock. :-)
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I personally believe, then, that it must be their code that makes those rocks move, after all: mystery solved!
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Well actually, it's not the code moving them. Perl programmers are blatantly underpaid, and need to work at odd jobs, like carrying rocks on their backs. You can tell us from the insects because we go "Ook" when squeezed. :-)
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by Erez (Priest) on Sep 01, 2008 at 07:04 UTC
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More than you think, less than there should be.
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by cosmicperl (Chaplain) on Aug 31, 2008 at 01:47 UTC
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Not quite what I had in mind... But amusing all the same :) | [reply] |
Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by vrk (Chaplain) on Sep 01, 2008 at 15:17 UTC
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by cutlass2006 (Pilgrim) on Sep 02, 2008 at 08:05 UTC
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Re: How many Perl programmers are there?
by johndageek (Hermit) on Sep 02, 2008 at 14:45 UTC
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