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Re^4: Some thoughts around the "is Perl code maintainable" discussion

by paddy3118 (Acolyte)
on Aug 11, 2007 at 22:05 UTC ( [id://631978]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Some thoughts around the "is Perl code maintainable" discussion
in thread Some thoughts around the "is Perl code maintainable" discussion

Not all your code is your own. In large organisations there can be multiple coding standards at work from internal and external organisations. What you suggest, isn't Perl specific and does not diminish the fact that Culture and syntax do play a part. If code readability is not a major part of the language design and syntax, then those coding standards are more likely to endorse stylistic elements that are difficult to read. If the culture of the users think obfuscation is cool then that too may slip by in code reviews by members of that culture. Perl code is maintainable. I, and many others have had to do it. It's just the language, and culture doesn't make it particularly easy. - Paddy.

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Re^5: Some thoughts around the "is Perl code maintainable" discussion
by grep (Monsignor) on Aug 12, 2007 at 00:29 UTC
    It's just the language, and culture doesn't make it particularly easy
    You provide no evidence (not even anecdotal evidence, just some innuendo) to support your claim.

    • Language portion of your assertion is fairly easy to define, perl code.
    • The Culture of a programming language is a little harder to define. I propose an applicable definition of "culture" in relation to a programming language: the sum total of ways built up by human beings and transmitted from an experienced group to an inexperienced group in a community. I think some acceptable examples of community would be Perlmonks.org and c.l.p.m.. I'm sure you come up with others. Since it far easier to (at least loosely) quantify experience at perlmonks.org I would suggest you start there (here). Saints in our Book should be a good marker of experience. Culture could then be quantified by the responses given by experienced members of a community to inexperienced.
    • By 'it', in your claim, you mean 'maintainability'. Still hard to quantify but could be done. You could come up with a set of standards. Post an RFC and you would most likely get some good help.

    It should be fairly easy to get a wealth of coding examples and answers from perlmonks. Then I would bet (a sixer of Rouge Dead Guy Ale, to be specific) if you examined this data and scored maintainability, you would find perl culture and language tends toward highly maintainable.

      Then I would bet (a sixer of Rouge Dead Guy Ale, to be specific)

      If this were ny.pm, this would be the first on topic post. Rouge Dead Guy is such good beer. The brewpub in Newport, OR is awesome. More folks in New York are starting to carry Rogue, which makes me happy.

      -- Douglas Hunter

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