Re^2: What's wrong with Perl 6?

I do think the long name (including version number) should not have been Perl 6. Mind you, that includes the 6. Because the "6" part is the problem, not the "Perl" part. In my opinion, it's okay to reserve a version number only if you can deliver it within a year.

This is my primary complain about the current situation as well. By taking the version number 6 long before anything was ready it signalled that Perl 5 was dead and soon to be replaced by something new. When that new thing didnt come out it left the meme in the market that both Perl 5 and Perl 6 were dead, (one of old age and the other still-born). This meme is doubly incorrect, Perl 6 isnt still-born, and Perl 5 is most definitely not dead of old age.

I really hope that Larry takes the opportunity over this summers conferences to push the point that neither are dead. Especially Perl 5 as I believe that Perl 6 will prove its point when its released but that Perl 5 is currently suffering from the confusion in the marketplace.

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Re^3: What's wrong with Perl 6? by TimToady (Parson) on May 14, 2007 at 19:25 UTC
I really hope that Larry takes the opportunity over this summers conferences to push the point that neither are dead. I don't know why you think that would help. I've said the same thing every summer and more or less been ignored. I think the main problem here is simply a basic human tendency: far too many people would much rather listen to themselves spout ignorant opinions than try to figure out which of the other spouters aren't. They don't necessarily mean any harm by it, but then we all intentionally blind ourselves to the harm in what we do, to some extent or another. That's the psychological danger inherent in living your life based on minimizing harm rather than maximizing love.	[reply]
Re^4: What's wrong with Perl 6? by demerphq (Chancellor) on May 15, 2007 at 10:01 UTC
I don't know why you think that would help Because countering a bad meme requires repetition and persistance. Also with a bit of luck and effort we will see Perl 5.10 released, which coupled with your advocacy should go a long way to countering this market confusion. And you know what, even it doesnt help it would make me personally, and I suspect others as well, feel better about our efforts on the Perl 5 track. OT: what do you recommend for dealing with all the myriad places that the term "perl compatible regular expression" is used? Its a commonly used phrase, printed in books, in library documentation, in other languages libraries, heck even MS uses the term afaik. Since the term is now ambiguous what should happen? --- $world=~s/war/peace/g	[reply]
How to rename PCRE when it's not P6 compatible? by TimToady (Parson) on May 15, 2007 at 16:27 UTC
You bring up an interesting cultural question. I didn't name PCRE, so I'm not sure I'm obligated to come up with a replacement. `:-)` But if we can manage to give away the engine this time so that people don't feel obligated to reinvent it compatibly, then we could just call it "Perl 6 Rules". Or in Californian: "Perl 6 Roolz, dude!" And then PCRE could just become one of those rebranded acronyms that people forget the original meaning of, like PIN: "Please identify yourself by typing in your personal PIN number..."	[reply]
Re: How to rename PCRE when it's not P6 compatible? by duff (Parson) on May 15, 2007 at 18:36 UTC


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