from what I have been troubleshooting, i think i figured out that its not the pdf, its the script itself i used old code that was working with a old pdf that was working and it worked fine. but when i replaced the old script with my new script but kept the old pdf, it failed with the same error, so I have to assume its the script I tried deleting everything i edited in the script, but it still failed at the same point in the script, the old script is too out dated to use, other wise I would revert back. perhaps re-writting it might solve some problems