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Re: Disallow Anonymous Monks from posting to tutorials

by Marza (Vicar)
on Nov 10, 2006 at 21:27 UTC ( [id://583413]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Disallow Anonymous Monks from posting to tutorials

A level power sounds like a good idea and I like the idea of disabling the anon monk from posting to tutorials.

In fact why not disable all comments? Is the tutorial section supposed to be a discussion area or simply a place to find information? If a user has questions, then why can't he post them on the questions board?

This of course would probably require updating of the tutorials and I don't know if people would like doing that especially if the author disappears.

Another reason to disable the anon monk is simply a "gift" to the authors. If the author is willing to publish work that means he is ready for good or bad comments. If you are going to take potshots, then you shouldn't hide behind the anonmonk.

Tye said Meditations should be the area for the drafts and comments. That sounds reasonable.

I would ask why not make use of the voting booth to handle if something should be added to the tutorials?

I could see that causing discussions over the tutorial.

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Re^2: Disallow Anonymous Monks from posting to tutorials
by blazar (Canon) on Nov 11, 2006 at 23:19 UTC
    In fact why not disable all comments? Is the tutorial section supposed to be a discussion area or simply a place to find information? If a user has questions, then why can't he post them on the questions board?

    Well, he can. But things change over time, both in the language proper, and in the people wandering around in the monastery. Even if a tutorial has been discussed in Meditations before making its way into Tutorials, single points may become obsolete after some time and/or new, better WTDI may emerge, and OTOH new people may notice something that wasn't in the first place. So, all in all, as with so many other things, there are obvious and less obvious advantages in both allowing comments and in disallowing them. But if you ask me, I'd make more or less everything commentable, including home nodes, as was once the case. (Albeit by means of a trick!)

    This of course would probably require updating of the tutorials and I don't know if people would like doing that especially if the author disappears.

    Actually, I've found myself repeatedly thinking that perhaps Tutorials would benefit by being more easily editable, but in the wiki sense, that is with means to also easily undo changes. However this doesn't fit well in the Everything2 scheme of things, where everything has an owner. Ideally, the two approaches are not mutually exclusive or incompatible: if there were some sort of ACL on nodes, e.g. on the basis of *NIX like permissions, then one author may allow others to edit a node of his/her own, and allow answers or not. Then some kind of nodes should have these turned on by default, and others turned off. (Should one think of this as some sort of umask?) But some nodes should have these facilities actually disabled for it wouldn't make much sense to allow one to post a question and to e.g. let him choose that everybody can edit it, and nobdy can answer it. Now that I think of it, it's not that bad a scheme in my mind, but it has the slight defect of not being implemented, and as you can see it would require seemingly unexpected complexities, so it is not likely to be implemented any time soon, if ever. So, all in all don't consider this as directly or strictly addressed to you, but rather as a meditation of mine gone wild, while thinking aloud of it. Or better: in the "typing-on-the-keyboard" equivalent of thinking aloud, of course.

      I second the thought that Tutorials should be wiki-like.

      In response to the original quesion though, I think that approvals in the same way as SoPW would be fine. Limiting who can post a certain type of document, or enforcing a particular process seems a little against the "way of the monastery". Requiring an approval, however, is perfectly in keeping with existing practices (and a very good idea for stopping spam before it starts as you mention).

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