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RE: Ideas for PerlMonks Themes
by vroom (His Eminence) on Mar 19, 2000 at 07:22 UTC
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Yeah a theme like that would be cool unfortunately I don't know if my graphic design skills are up to the challenge. Plus there are oh so many features on my y. list to be implemented... but who knows maybe someday... if anyone feels compelled to work on some graphics for such a theme let me know.
vroom | Tim Vroom | vroom@cs.hope.edu
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LINK="#CC6600"
VLINK="#993300"
ALINK="#FF6600"
Here's a sample page with that scheme:
<HEAD>
</HEAD>
<BODY BACKGROUND="http://www.johncfish.com/bggallery/parchmt.jpg"
TEXT="black"
LINK="#CC6600"
VLINK="#993300"
ALINK="#FF6600"
>
<table width = 80%>
<TR><TD BGCOLOR="#996633"><H2><font color="#FFF8F0">Perl Monks</font><
+/H2></TD>
</table>
<table width="98%" align="center" id="titlebar">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="middle" class="titlechooser">
<h3 class="superdoc">Super Search</h3>
</td>
<td valign="top" align="right" class="monktitlebar">
<a href="/index.pl?node=Obfuscated%20Code">Obfuscation</
+a> | <a href="/index.pl?node=Perl%20Poetry">Poetry</a> 
+;| <a href="/index.pl?node=Cool%20Uses%20for%20Perl">Cool U
+ses For Perl</a> | <a href="/index.pl?node=Snippe
+ts%20Section">Snippets</a> | <a href="/index.pl?node=Code%2
+0Catacombs">Code</a> | <a href="/index.pl?node=Craft">Craft
+</a> | <br />
| <a href="/index.pl?node=Perl%20News">Perl News</a>&n
+bsp;| <a href="/index.pl?node=Reviews">Reviews</a> | <
+a href="/index.pl?node=Tutorials">Tutorials</a> | <a href="
+/index.pl?node=Newest%20Nodes">Newest Nodes</a> | <a h
+ref="/index.pl?node=Offering%20Plate">Offering Plate</a> |&
+nbsp;</font><br />
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="60%" align="center" id="titlebar">
<TR>
Here is some ordinary text just sitting on the page waiting for you to
+ read it.
It looks pretty good, doesn't it? You find yourself liking this scheme
+ more and more.
You feel inspired to implement it.
</TR>
</table>
</BODY>
The PerlMonks advocate for tr///
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RE: Ideas for PerlMonks Themes
by turnstep (Parson) on Apr 07, 2000 at 21:18 UTC
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Second, I would like to see some more themes in the near
future. I might really enjoy a theme that is more
monkish. Something that looks like I'm in a big stone
castle in a room filled with arcane books and mystical
potions and such.
How would you structure this (or any) theme? Where would these graphics
go? What else would change? Just trying to get a picture in my mind of what
you envision...
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RE: Ideas for PerlMonks Themes
by setantae (Scribe) on Mar 19, 2000 at 16:18 UTC
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With regard to your first point, if you leave it set to Default, then when the default changes then your theme will too.
I thought I'd typed the wrong url the first time I came here and found everything in blue...back on red now.
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Re: Ideas for PerlMonks Themes
by HugoNo1 (Novice) on Sep 26, 2018 at 11:29 UTC
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I don't know why the question of retheming the Site was dropped.
But nowadays the site looks very like 90s and legacy
which gives the whole Perl Programming an air of old School Legacy Programming
So a redesign of the whole Site is very overdue.
Consider modern MVC and Template Implementation as well for easier Design Updates.
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I could not find any but this! ...
Sorry, but my impression stays the same ...
The discussion should be reopened in view of the current state of Design.
Sorry, if the developers take this personal ...
But not being honest about this won't help you.
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RE: Ideas for PerlMonks Themes
by PipTigger (Hermit) on Mar 19, 2000 at 18:43 UTC
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Ok... Maybe an interactive theme configurator is a little much to ask for at this point but ... <rant>Why does every theme have to emulate paper?!? A traditional book or printout doesn't radiate and thus cook my eyeballs... If paper beamed into your sockets, you wouldn't want to stare at it very long. It's hard to read a book in the dark... so since you need external illumination, black text on white paper makes a lot of sense. Now when we've entered a different realm where gazing in the dark is entirely feasible, we should resist the urge to mimic old ways. It seems so very simple yet it must not be ... command-line interfaces had it right (usually)... with light gray text on a black background... let our eyes focus on the light rather than the miniscule absence of it and they will itch and burn less... Computer displays are not paper! Don't force webpages or any other interface you design to adhere to such an antiquated paradigm! I guess what I'm trying to say is: Please make a theme with teal text on a deep navy (nearly black) background... white text here, yellow text there... the light colors are eye attractions and they're much more comfortable for me... I would assume that others feel similarly or just haven't ever thought about it or actually prefer scorched eyeballs... I'm aiming to someday write a Perl script that filters every site I specify in my browser so that I won't have to be dismayed by the color options of /. and perlmonks... arstechnica has it right... </rant> Sorry if I went on and on and ... about something as relatively trivial as the most important method for receiving data back from your computer and information from the net... I relapse into oblivion only to recover into abyss whence I climb up to chaos and plunge among ether. Stick some chopsticks next to me... I'm done. TTFN & Shalom.
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I have to disagree strongly with piptigger -- this dark theme makes my eyes water and burn, especially because of the complete lack of contrast in the nested comments. I don't know of any research on usability that says black on white is less readable than white on black, but I KNOW that grey/yellow on white is virtually impossible to read. (I only read arstechnica when absolutely necessary.)
Adjust your brightness/contrast so the monitor doesn't hurt your eyes. Get a glare filter. Buy a flat panel. The problem is not the site design, it's the fact that computer monitors are just not good for your eyes.
I hate to even comment on this at all, because as vroom says, he's got more pressing things to do than worry about prettifying the site.
(I do like the idea of a medieval theme. I have many artist friends. Maybe one of 'em would volunteer.)
e-mail neshura
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I hate light-on-dark text viewing. Humans like myself are diurnal creatures, used to viewing things in the light. Command line interfaces use light-on-dark because back when the first command lines were developed, white was expensive. Remember when computer monitors were all black with green or orange text? It's (obviously) not as easy to read black on flourescent green as it is to read green on black, but at the same time it's easier to read black on white than just about anything on black. White gives the impression of clean emptyness.
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days are loud, disturbed, and busy in a typical office... nights can be focused, intense, and far more productive when it comes to writing code. (<tangent> I love staring at code so long while malnourished and sleep deprived that I sense vertigo before my monitor =) </tan>) Also, working nights means that one can likely be immersed in electronica or classical or whatever you prefer without sweaty headphones on and there are no neighbors or family members to awake (since most offices are in commercial districts nicely removed from the residential burbclaves) ... so maybe I'm an immature lamer script kiddie whose security blanket is my resemblance of every typical hacker (although not quite as perv as Mouse in Matrix) ... maybe I'm not all or any of those things but I do think this issue is intimately fundamental to every interaction with a computing device. How will we tell it what we want it to do? How will we know that it did it? My main point is that screens don't have to destroy or offend onlooker's eyes... maybe it's like hard plastic seats at McDon's or BurgerChum where they don't want you to get too comfortable so you won't want to lounge about and clutter the dining room so others can buy and dine ... I don't know about you but when the whole thing is actually glaring, radiating, electron beams a beaming and cathode rays arraying) I'd rather focus on a little bright text than gape at fluorescence while trying to dial pupils into a little dark text. Thanks for reading my long winded %re of why I think what I think (and for enduring my poor paragraphing ability). I welcome any further discussion regarding this issue since I feel so passionately about it. I'll try to be open minded but I don't like it when dust gets in there (maybe I need a Microsoft optical intellibrain with lasereye technology). TTFN & Shalom.
-PipTigger
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Go to user settings now and check out the dark theme... it has some issues but let me know what you think...
I need to design some titlebar graphics but since I'm on a laptop for the week I don't feel particularly compelled to do any gimping at this moment. However if you wanted to convert the perlmonks title image and search image I could plug those in fer ya.
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I must say that I like the dark theme tremendously ... actually I'm more impressed with the promptness with which you produced the option. Thank you Vroom! The title bar is fine for now (or so it seems to me... I'd be glad to help unify color themes if you would like... I don't have the ability to make new gifs until Tue evening or Wed afternoon but I'd love to help... I'll design other themes after that if you would like. Mail me about it) ... the most apparent transgression of this new dark theme has been the white background in the table which holds all the replies to a thread... the text and table colors elsewhere are far better than any of the previous theme options as far as I'm concerned. Nice work. TTFN & Shalom.
-PipTigger
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I love the darker theme!
The only change I would make is to the color of the hyperlinks (both visited and unvisited). They seem a little clashy. I don't like this theme as much as the blue theme, for my laptop, but when I plug it into my 21" sun monitor -- it looks very pleasing.
I'm really thankful for this site and can't wait to see what it grows into over the next few months. Everything(2) were interesting ideas, but PerlMonks is really a brilliant implementation. I bet Andover is already licking their lips and pulling out the cash. *grin*
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Well, you could always use lynx...
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