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Sharing all your experiences about other users

by jesuashok (Curate)
on May 03, 2006 at 03:40 UTC ( #547050=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Hi all,

There are lot of people asking about perlmonks. I used to tell them whatever I know from my experience with monks, because I am a Junior to this forum. The reason why I am telling myself as junior means, there are lot of users who are doing great contribution to this perlmonks from the day it started.

There are lot of users who are being with the monks site from the day one it started. I request those kind of users to share theire experience with other users. This would be helpful for all people who are joining in this perlmonks community. This would helpful for them to make some users as theire role model with regard to perl.

For example all saints can share theire experience about other saints If they have something to share. Definitely all saints would have contributed to many of writeups given by other saints or users. From other user writeups each one of us would have a admired about some writeups and admired about theire capability of creative thinking. I would like you people to share those kind of experience.

Definitely merlyn would have something to share about BrowserUk or Ovid

That is just an example I have mentioned about merlyn BrowserUk , Ovid. But this may vary depends upon every user.

Basically I am asking all user to share theire experience about other users.

"Keep pouring your ideas"
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Re: Sharing all your experiences about other users
by davido (Cardinal) on May 03, 2006 at 06:40 UTC

    You know, the amazing thing is that all high-ranking PerlMonks happen to be multiple instances of a single feat of programming: Chatbot::Eliza. Various personalities were generated by vroom. Those which turned out to be too volatile have been disconnected from the network somewhere along the way, or at least given only limited shares of processor time, to keep them quieter. CowboyNeal programmed vroom entirely in assembler on an array of fifty Timex Sinclair 2000's, which communicate with one another via cassette tape port.


      I hope that jesuashok realises that this is a jape perpetrated by the bot davido.

      The real story is that vroom arose as the result of a quantum fluctuation in a landfill containing all MicroSoft's original IBM PCs back in about 1995. Since that time ground water seepage formed a natural connection to underground communication cables in the area, and the rest (as they say) is history.

      DWIM is Perl's answer to Gödel
        I am very pleased to conclude that most of the bots here (no human beings, right?) are writen entirelly in Perl, inlcluding me (though I tend to rewrite myself in Ruby soon).

Re: Sharing all your experiences about other users
by Tanktalus (Canon) on May 03, 2006 at 13:02 UTC

    I haven't been here "from the day [Perlmonks] started," yet am in your list of "saints." If you want to see my examples of creative thinking, or anyone elses, go to that person's homepage here (just click on my nickname), click on the writeups number, and then tell it to sort on reputation. Both ends of this spectrum could be considered "creative thinking" - both popular and not.

    As for my experience with some other users, some of it has been positive, some has been less so, but I try not to colour other peoples' perceptions about each other based on my own experience with those people. The less positive experiences I've had with certain monks may just be my perception and have nothing to do with who they really are, and would be far from fair of me to paint them with that brush in public. If you independantly decide that that person is a negative influence on your time spent on Perlmonks, then we're much more likely to be right. But if I colour that before you get there, that won't be fair to either that person or to you, who could otherwise have a very positive relationship with that person.

    On the other hand, positive people will still be positive when you interact with them. So you won't lose anything if I don't tell you who I've found to be positive.

    In short, I see no advantage to you for me to tell you about other monks. It's far better for you to figure that out on your own.

      I haven't been here "from the day Perlmonks started," yet am in your list of "saints." If you want to see my examples of creative thinking, or anyone elses, go to that person's homepage here (just click on my nickname), click on the writeups number, and then tell it to sort on reputation. Both ends of this spectrum could be considered "creative thinking" - both popular and not.

      While this is fundamentally true, it is not entirely. This is the reason why, IMHO, often people complains about the XP system and tries to suggest alternatives. Indeed there's a net discrepancy between, say, my most upvoted nodes and those that I consider the best ones. And it's just the same with the most downvoted and the worst ones.

Re: Sharing all your experiences about other users
by blazar (Canon) on May 03, 2006 at 09:47 UTC

    Dear jesuashok,

    While I'm completely favourable to the occasional slipping in of OT discussions (especially as long as they're not 100% OT but have some connection with actual [Pp]erl stuff) this forum is for discussing about [Pp]erl, not [Pp]eople, and maybe it's just me being overly paranoid, but I see potential risks about ad personam arguments, even if they're favourable comments - so definitely that's the kind of OT content that I do not appreciate and do not approve.

    OTOH if you lurk for some time you can form an idea of who are those whose contribution will be most valuable for your own tastes and interests.

      I concur with blazar on this one. I've lurked around the monastery for a while, and began posting only recently (last Fall). It is pretty easy to tell, fairly quickly, who contributes to discussions in a favorable way and who doesn't. I've seen a few flame wars spring up, and this kind of a thread seems fraught with that kind of peril. Indeed, as I type this, I am tempted to make a snide remark about a monk whose posts irritate me ... so you see, it is better to leave some Pandora's boxes closed! :)

      No good deed goes unpunished. -- (attributed to) Oscar Wilde

      I think your reasons for not discussing people is not only paranoid but wrong. Without people there is no Perl. I can understand not wanting to cause a flamewar talking about someone but thats life; if someone cannot control themselves when talking about others that will probably extends into other parts of their life as well.

      Focusing upon Perl does not make them a better or a more rounded person you are just ignoring them in other ways in the hope of not offending anyone. Think about the people involved, Larry Wall, Damain Conway, chromatic... They are here, and while not always visible, they do help contribute and guide the community. They are what make Perl fun and I find them infinitely more interesting. Perl is just the reason people got together; it is not the reason we keep coming back.

        If you read some other posts of mine, e.g. (Homenodes and) where to post OT stuff?, you'll note that I'm well aware that "without people there is no Perl", which is the reason why I did firmly disagree with those that insist on the fact that "PM is for discussing perl and only perl". Of course too high a ratio offtopic/ontopic would be unacceptable, and the threshold is a personal matter, but without discussions that slip from perl to OT content, this forum, like everything else, would be much more boring a place.

        So I'm favourable to occasionally discuss people on PM. But that depends on whether the need to do so arises.

Re: Sharing all your experiences about other users
by Zaxo (Archbishop) on May 03, 2006 at 09:20 UTC

    Some of us are figments of DigitalKitty's fertile, but cinematic, imagination.

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