Thanks, I'll look into the .nsconfig solution. As for the module thing... there's just something amiss with the whole perl install on this server. Even when the unix admins install modules, sometimes they just don't work. There are three separate perl installs on this server, 2 don't work and its just a mess to figure out where to even install a module becuase the paths are a nightmare anymore. I forgot I could put a module in the code direct.