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As I’ve said before in this thread, that is roughly what I already do. And as I’ve already responded to fokat, I find ORMs unhelpful for this approach as well.

The primary advantage of an ORM would seem to be that it avoids leaking database queries into unrelated code all over the place. However, as you point out, despite appearances, that couples the code too closely with the database. So there should indeed be a higher-level abstraction layer than just the ORM.

Of course, how this extra layer’s innards are written is not a concern to the calling code. It’s also clear that internally, this layer is inherently coupled strongly with the database. Fine, so you could use an ORM to simplify this code. But you can do that just as well using something like SQL::Abstract – and that way you also avoids the overhead and opacity introduced by an ORM.

So I find that depending on the side from which you look at it, ORMs are either too much abstraction or too little, but never right.

Makeshifts last the longest.