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Re^3: Object Constructors - Advice of experienced OO Perl Monks

by ides (Deacon)
on Oct 06, 2005 at 15:01 UTC ( #497952=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Object Constructors - Advice of experienced OO Perl Monks
in thread Object Constructors - Advice of experienced OO Perl Monks

MI == multiple inheritance

What he is basically saying is instead of having something like:

sub new { my ($class, %args) = @_; my $self = bless( {}, $class ); foreach my $k ( keys(%args) ) { $self{$k} = $args{$k}; } return( $self ); }

do something like:

sub new { my ($class, %args) = @_; my $self = bless( {}, $class ); $self->init(%args); return( $self ); } sub init { my ($self, %args) = @_; foreach my $k ( keys(%args) ) { $$self{$k} = $args{$k}; } # anyother initialization here }

This makes a clean separation between the construction and the initialization with no real downside.

Frank Wiles <frank@wiles.org>
http://www.wiles.org

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Re^4: Object Constructors - Advice of experienced OO Perl Monks
by Perl Mouse (Chaplain) on Oct 06, 2005 at 15:51 UTC
    No, you didn't understand me. Sure, the code looks cleaner, but you still have the same problem. The problem is that your initialization happens with whatever your constructor is returning. So, if you are inheriting from two classes, the first constructor is going to return object1. The second constructor is going to return object2. Now, what you finally want is a single object - most likely object1 or object2. If you separate initialization from construction (and then I mean a logical separation - not a mere separation in your source code), you can just discard one of the objects (or rather, not even calling the constructor of those classes).
    package MultiColoured; our @ISA = qw /Red White Blue/; sub new {my $self = Red->new; bless $self, shift} sub init { my $self = shift; $self->Red::init(...); $self->White::init(...); $self->Blue::init(...); } ... package main; my $obj = MultiColoured->new->init(...);

    That doesn't mean MI is always possible. If in the above example Red assumes objects are hashrefs, and Blue assumes arrayrefs, MI isn't going to work. But if all the classes assume hashrefs (as most objects do), and you don't have clashes with the hashkeys, this is going to work.

    But if you need to call the constructor to initialize the object, MI is going to fail.

    Perl --((8:>*

      We are arguing about taste here :) I dislike the MI approach, and really prefer initialize the object inside constructor to be sure my object will be instantiated correctly.

      Thinking about MI, your scheme is correct.


      Igor S. Lopes - izut
      surrender to perl. your code, your rules.

        The point is that two steps initialization is error prone. You can avoid that using the Composite scheme: class A has B and C class instead of class A is B and C class.

        Update: Extracted from perltoot:

        In practice, few class modules have been seen that actually make use of MI. One nearly always chooses simple containership of one class within another over MI. That’s why our Person object contained a Fullname object. That doesn’t mean it was one.


        Igor S. Lopes - izut
        surrender to perl. your code, your rules.
        Whether one likes MI or not isn't the point. It would be impolite, and rather non-perlish, to make it harder for the users of your class to do MI.
        Perl --((8:>*

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