Re: Enterprise Perl

I do not understand specifically what Java/WebSphere and their ilk bring to my table that I can't do with Perl/CPAN/Catalyst/Apache/Perlmonks and for about $10000 and several Maalox less?

Support and a single point of contact / responsibility. Have a problem/question about WebSphere you call IBM. Have a problem with a framework built from 40 different CPAN modules you call?

Of course this doesn't mean that Perl isn't used in the Enterprise. Lots of companies from Amazon to Barclays Bank rely on Perl for their day-to-day operations.

I guess, I am musing about other monks' thoughts about "Perl (5|6) Enterprise Environment (P5EE)", "Enterprise Perl Pods (EPP)", and "Perl Struts" or "Perl on Rails" or "Perl on Rollerblades." Do we need one? Why don't we have one? Maybe we have one but it is disguised like the proletariat!

We don't have one because most of us don't need one to get our job done.

It doesn't get done by somebody else because it would be a heck of a lot of work. To have any affect on the people that prefer WebSphere it would have to be supported by an organisation that looks vaguely reliable. So it would need to be adopted by an IBM, or somebody would need to set up something like JBoss. Neither of them being terribly easy tasks.

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Re^2: Enterprise Perl by Anonymous Monk on Aug 06, 2005 at 14:26 UTC
As one who has worked for IBM, yes, you can call, but I doubt they'll fix your problem in the next 3 releases ... or even listen to you if you are too small. Open source developers will. But again, this is a marketing/business issue, with little technical backing ... what can you do. The business types keep their jobs when they spend money. Open source is "too easy" and makes them somewhat obsolete!	[reply]
Re^3: Enterprise Perl by adrianh (Chancellor) on Aug 09, 2005 at 16:07 UTC
As one who has worked for IBM, yes, you can call, but I doubt they'll fix your problem in the next 3 releases ... or even listen to you if you are too small. Open source developers will That depends on the company and the open source developer. I've had some really excellent support responses from Sun and Oracle over the years. I've had open source developers being far too busy to fix the minor problems :-)	[reply]
Re^2: Enterprise Perl by tilly (Archbishop) on Aug 07, 2005 at 06:29 UTC
Well Spikesource would like to be that single point of contact. Also lots of people outsource development to consulting companies, and then those consultants become that single point of contact.	[reply]
Re^3: Enterprise Perl by adrianh (Chancellor) on Aug 09, 2005 at 16:11 UTC
Well Spikesource would like to be that single point of contact. Yeah, it's an interesting company. There have certainly been situations in the past where something like their made-to-order software stacks would have been useful to me.	[reply]


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