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Re: The Lighter Side of Perl Culture (Part IV)

by QM (Parson)
on Mar 08, 2005 at 04:58 UTC ( [id://437413]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to The Lighter Side of Perl Culture (Part IV): Golf

I've always wondered what it is the essence that makes for a good golfer?

Is it something that can be communicated and understood to Perlers at large? Are there dozens of think tanks being funded by black military budgets racing to discover this? Is Ton Hospel really just a quantum computer running Perl NAN?

Can this essence be generalized to non-specific programming and problem solving? AI inference engines? Easy Bake Oven Non-Secular Holiday Turkey recipes?

Or is there something inherently irrational or unfathomable about the whole golfing process, and therefore the mindset that excells at it? (And by extrapolation, something we'd rather not know for fear of becoming too much like "them"?)

-QM
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Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of

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by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Mar 08, 2005 at 10:29 UTC

    Is Ton Hospel really just a quantum computer running Perl NAN?
    This has been the subject of intense speculation for years. There are no known photos and as indicated by the following exchange, only one golfer has ever seen him in real life:

    On Thu, 2 May 2002, Ton Hospel wrote: > > Jerome Quelin writes: > >> I begin to think that Ton is an alien. This makes me wonder: has an +yone seen >> Ton in real life? ;) >> > I have. That's just what an alien _would_ say. -- Stephen Turner, Cambridge, UK http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adelie/s +tephen/ "This is Henman's 8th Wimbledon, and he's only lost 7 matches." BBC, 2 +/Jul/01

    Or is there something inherently irrational or unfathomable about the whole golfing process, and therefore the mindset that excells at it? (And by extrapolation, something we'd rather not know for fear of becoming too much like "them"?)
    I've often felt the golfer's mindset could be a fertile ground for study in the field of psychiatry. :-) Seriously, my feeling is that being a brilliant Perl golfer has more to do with personal qualities, such as intelligence, resourcefulness, competitiveness, tenacity, and so on, than it has to do with Perl knowledge. Indeed a complete Perl beginner, Mickut from Finland, performed so sensationally in TPR(0,3) that he's listed second in The Sand-Baggin' Hall of Shame (for persons calling themselves Beginners while they are in fact driving like hard-boiled veterans) at `/anick's BoG. After programming in Perl for just four hours, he began moving past some veteran programmers with years of Perl experience!

    I well remember autrijus making a brilliant debut at Ton's tournament. If you read Ton's post mortem, you will appreciate that he was in no doubt back then that Autrijus was a very rare talent indeed. After the tournament, I sent Autrijus a congratulatory email and remember him replying that he only wished he could summon up the same intensity for his other hacking projects. So you see his recent scintillating PUGS coding frenzy is nothing compared to what he is truly capable of. ;-)

    Update: Another example can be found in The golf course looks great, my swing feels good, I like my chances (Part III) (2009), where an experienced golfer but a PHP beginner (me :-), won a PHP golf competition.

      So you see his recent scintillating PUGS coding frenzy is nothing compared to what he is truly capable of.

      *smacks forehead* Of course! Why didn't I see it before?!? Implementing a completely new language that is a superset of all other languages (other than LISP, of course) is obviously easier than golfing! *wanders off to implement ... something!*

      Being right, does not endow the right to be rude; politeness costs nothing.
      Being unknowing, is not the same as being stupid.
      Expressing a contrary opinion, whether to the individual or the group, is more often a sign of deeper thought than of cantankerous belligerence.
      Do not mistake your goals as the only goals; your opinion as the only opinion; your confidence as correctness. Saying you know better is not the same as explaining you know better.

      There are no known photos...

      I can testify on his existance; bids are welcome on an unique photo of a real-life Ton. (No bids below 1,000,000 Altairian Dollars are accepted)

      <Paul>

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