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•Re^3: Not Again ... *sighs*

by merlyn (Sage)
on Oct 01, 2004 at 11:22 UTC ( #395598=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^2: Not Again ... *sighs*
in thread Abigail-II and some thoughts

{Abigail}, and perhaps {merlyn}, forget that we are all human and totally miss out on that, which no number of years of perl, will ever help attain.
No, I think that's attributing the wrong cause to the symptoms. I absolutely recognize the humanity in myself and others. But when pressed for time, I deliver "just the facts, ma'am", and leave it to other able and capable human beings to manage their own internal state regarding the cognitive dissonance between their beliefs and my facts. (Actually, to baby other people along seems to be more an admission that I would be viewing people as fragile and incapable. Why would I want to encourage a world like that?) When I have additional time, I also try to handle those issues as well. But I'd rather deliver five important facts in a morning, than one fact surrounded by sugar coating. Excuse me for wanting to get the most bang-for-the-buck. {grin}

See also my recently posted On Being Polite, which contains similar thoughts expressed differently.

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
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Re^4: Not Again ... *sighs*
by exussum0 (Vicar) on Oct 01, 2004 at 12:33 UTC
    From linked node...
    I'm happy to put the extra effort in to "be polite" when the path is obvious to me and I have the extra time. But when my time is limited, I'm going to yell "get your hand off the stove, now!", and not worry about how to phrase that so as not to damage their ego. I'd rather make a difference than be well liked (as I've said once or twice before, in here).
    Except when you don't, which is quite often. You being polite, objective and "just the facts" is absurd. If that was the case, people wouldn't have such a problem with your terrible attitude and your assine ways. PERIOD. You are the complete polar opposite to wassercrats. Smart, but not at all wise. You lack the ability to be everything you claim and be civil. Compare your write up to someone like tye, theorbtwo or tachyon. While tye may be more sarcastic than some, he's hardly ever rude. to2 and tachyon NEVER let their emotion in. Look at, "the facts". Go read their nodes, really. And if you can't see how you are offensive, then you really are no better than wassercrats or some others who's ego's just blind them. And to think that people aren't at all fragile is more proof that you are only that, smart.

    And speaking from emotion, anyone can be smart, but it takes a bigger person to know that it's not only about being smart. You lose complete respect from me, and maybe others, EVERY time you decided to act, for no better words, a jerk. And you aren't excused. You've said in your own home node that you are a bit of a jerk. A better person would minimally try to rectify that, and not just continue. I equate you to a human with autism. Idiot savant. Someone who is vertically intelligent. Austic even. And to compare you to an autistic person is an insult to them more than anything else as they can't help benig the way they are. You on the other hand, could have (I assumed), but decided to go the other route.

    Update: Added extra sentence in italics.

    Then B.I. said, "Hov' remind yourself nobody built like you, you designed yourself"

      At least you're consistent in your hatred of me. {grin}

      And I would have told you this in /msg, but you're ignoring me.

      There's a psychological phenomenon known as "projection", where you see faults in others that you have worked out the least for yourself. Since you, exussum0, paint me very differently from most, I'm going to have to say that this says more about you than about me. I'm listening carefully for something that can be confirmed in a majority of other observations, but I seem to hear it from a small minority that includes you (and maybe one or two others).

      You already strike me as somone with a chip on your shoulders about getting an unfair treatment from the world, as I suggested before. And it doesn't surprise me that when I touch on that magic "self responsibility" area that you light up again.

      Well, let me say to that that I know a lot of people that believe that the world "out there" controls how they feel "in here", and I know a lot of people (smaller group, but still significant) that believe that it's not that way, and as a whole, the latter group are happier, healthier, more full of life, and more productive.

      So, that's your choice to live the way you choose. I would not take that away from you. But please consider what it is costing you.

      -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
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