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Re^2: XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM

by ysth (Canon)
on Sep 12, 2004 at 06:59 UTC ( [id://390378]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM
in thread XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM

While the guidelines don't allow for such a thing that I've seen, a node could be considered for removal from the frontpage.
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Re^3: XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Sep 12, 2004 at 09:01 UTC

    There is definately precedence for this. I'm not sure if it requires godlyor just janitorial intervention but it certainly has happened in the past and will happen again in the future. Probably the relevent docs should be enhanced to state this explicitly.

    Having said that I'm wondering if maybe a rule like "nodes in a thread that has been frontpaged that are by the frontpager may not be voted on" would be a good idea. I know the FP system can be gamed as it is, and even such measures aren't immune, but perhaps it would at least emphasize that doing so is outright ethically wrong, and would increase the perception that the system tries to be fair.

    Again there is precedence here, as at one point you could FP or approve your own nodes. We stopped that after it became obvious that it was being used to inflate XP.

    Also, if we ever get to a point where we seriously start looking at changing the system my first priority would be to vastly reduce the number of votes in the system. This will probably be perceived as unfair by newer monks who will probably take a lot longer to get to the higher levels, but IMO this will reduce a lot of the XP/Rep related issues. With the way the votes are doled out and the number of saints we have now (who are consistantly the most prevalent visitors) the number of votes available to be cast on any given day has grown vastly out of proportion to the number of nodes being posted (IMO relatively static). This means that nodes that when I started probably wouldnt garner more than a few rep often get 10 or 20 times that. If votes were more expensive then IMO we would see an improvement in the "quality" of voting.


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    demerphq

      First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
      -- Gandhi

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      janitors can remove frontpaging.

      Don't like the idea of disallowing voting; seems to me people are too hesitant to fp things they've replied to, if anything.

        But doesn't that prove the point? I mean if they weren't going to get upvoted for it they wouldnt have any reason to fear commenting and front paging as well. No one could accuse them of XP whoring then could they?


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        demerphq

          First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
          -- Gandhi

          Flux8


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