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Re: XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM

by Anonymous Monk
on Sep 12, 2004 at 00:22 UTC ( [id://390346]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM

Well, you are level 7, so it's easy to gain lots of XP with minimal effort. Keep refreshing the newest nodes page. As soon as a new question is posted, post a follow up. It doesn't matter whether you actually answer the question, or whether your answer is correct. As long as it looks good. It helps if you put in catch phrases like 'use strict' or 'use warnings', even if that wouldn't solve the problem at all. Throw in some other remarks like "I love Perl", "I love open source", "I hate meetings". Now frontpage the the original question. It doesn't matter whether it's off-topic or whether it's been asked a billion times before - early replies on frontpaged questions gets lot of XP. And remember, there's no moderation of the frontpaging itself. Once it's on the frontpage (getting it on the frontpage takes just one "in favour" vote - your vote) it can't be voted off.

2000 XP/month should be easy using this technique.

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Re^2: XP, page ranking, sponsored links and the fortune of PM
by ysth (Canon) on Sep 12, 2004 at 06:59 UTC
    While the guidelines don't allow for such a thing that I've seen, a node could be considered for removal from the frontpage.

      There is definately precedence for this. I'm not sure if it requires godlyor just janitorial intervention but it certainly has happened in the past and will happen again in the future. Probably the relevent docs should be enhanced to state this explicitly.

      Having said that I'm wondering if maybe a rule like "nodes in a thread that has been frontpaged that are by the frontpager may not be voted on" would be a good idea. I know the FP system can be gamed as it is, and even such measures aren't immune, but perhaps it would at least emphasize that doing so is outright ethically wrong, and would increase the perception that the system tries to be fair.

      Again there is precedence here, as at one point you could FP or approve your own nodes. We stopped that after it became obvious that it was being used to inflate XP.

      Also, if we ever get to a point where we seriously start looking at changing the system my first priority would be to vastly reduce the number of votes in the system. This will probably be perceived as unfair by newer monks who will probably take a lot longer to get to the higher levels, but IMO this will reduce a lot of the XP/Rep related issues. With the way the votes are doled out and the number of saints we have now (who are consistantly the most prevalent visitors) the number of votes available to be cast on any given day has grown vastly out of proportion to the number of nodes being posted (IMO relatively static). This means that nodes that when I started probably wouldnt garner more than a few rep often get 10 or 20 times that. If votes were more expensive then IMO we would see an improvement in the "quality" of voting.


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      demerphq

        First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
        -- Gandhi

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        janitors can remove frontpaging.

        Don't like the idea of disallowing voting; seems to me people are too hesitant to fp things they've replied to, if anything.

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