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Re^2: Auto NodeReaper Approval (why?)

by Paulster2 (Priest)
on Jun 13, 2004 at 11:22 UTC ( #363806=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Auto NodeReaper Approval (why?)
in thread Auto NodeReaper Approval

Maybe I didn't make my case clear. Please let me restate what my line of thinking is:

When I check at the bottom of any section (ie: Seekers of Perl Wisdom, Mediations, etc) that has a space for aproval or mediation, I sometimes find nodes there, depending on whether or not anyone has submitted any questions. Sometimes I find nodes sitting there for approval that are from the NodeReaper saying just that, that whatever node it was has been Reaped. It appears to me that the Reaper nodes are awaiting approval, not the original nodes. So I click the "Ok" box and submit. Am I not suppose to okay these? Remember, I am not talking about the original nodes, I am only talking about the node that says "This node was...."

This goes back to my original question (with addition): Is there any reason that some automatic house cleaning isn't done with these secondary nodes? Why aren't the Reaper nodes pre-approved (not the Reaped nodes)? Or shouldn't the Reaper nodes be exibiting this behavoir at all?


You're so sly, but so am I. - Quote from the movie Manhunter.

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Re^3: Auto NodeReaper Approval (why?)
by Happy-the-monk (Canon) on Jun 13, 2004 at 12:07 UTC

    There sems to be a misunderstanding. You will see in What is moderation? that "Approval", also called "Moderation" (see the "moderate" on that button in the "moderation nodelet" called "Approval nodelet" to make the confusion complete.)...
    ... is meant to bless a node into one of the PM sections.

    The reason of the moderation process is to prevent monk discussions to appear in the code section etc.

    Give it some thought and you will see, it's no use for a NodeReaper posting (a deleting or reaping) of a node to appear in any section at all.

    At least that's my conclusion. Why would you want it there?
    Otoh you might argue why there's an option to approve such a node then.

    Cheers, Sören

      My thought is not really to keep it there. I guess I'm too anal to allow things to hang around. I like things neat and tidy. Why should the Reaper node sit at the bottom of the page? Why should it be there in the first place. Kill it. Aprove it. Don't have it in there in the first place, I don't know. It just kind of bugs me that a seperate (or replacement node) sits in moderation just kind of hanging out. Are we suppose to take care of these as clean minded (janitorial service that we are) individuals? Or should we just let them hang out and clutter the bottom of the page? Wouldn't it just be easier for this type of node to self destruct or get moved on to its final resting ground?

      Please don't read this as a flame of any sort. I'm just trying, like everyone else who frequents these pages, to make it a better place to swap state (read -- Perl Hacker) secrets.


      You're so sly, but so am I. - Quote from the movie Manhunter.

        If it were a good thing to have *nothing* sit unapproved, then we'd just eliminate the whole approval process.

        If your anal nature prevents you from leaving any node unapproved, then you *need* to stop visiting pages like Seekers of Perl Wisdom. (I thought there was something in user settings to turn off showing you nodes yet to be approved, but there isn't.)

        You aren't doing a service to the site by approving every single node without regard for whether it should be approved or not. You are doing a *disservice*. What do you think approval is for? What do you think it does (beside remove the node from the bottom of the page)? Did you read any / much / all of the site documentation on the approval process?

        BTW, your approvals of reaped nodes should have done nothing. Only editors are supposed to be able to approve reaped nodes (after you answer my questions above I'll even explain why). So one more bug to fix.

        FYI, this reinforces my plan to get rid of approval and replace it with disapproval.

        - tye        

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