Re: Re: Re: Death and Return of TIMTOWTDI

Right - Linux, OpenOffice, Unix, C, even Perl, were all things that someone built in spite of there already being something similar out there. And the people did many of these things on their own, for the love of the work and not for the money. Come to think of it, even Einstein wrote his three major papers (including the special theory of relativity) in his spare time.

In my experience, most bosses are too caught up in the so-called bottom line, that they overlook how much valuable stuff is done by people on their own. They usually can't see beyond the next financial report. But that's OK. Many of us do for fun what others wouldn't do for money. Getting paid would kind of take the fun out of it, IMNSHO.

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Re^4: Death and Return of TIMTOWTDI by dakedesu (Scribe) on Jun 05, 2004 at 03:22 UTC
I don't know... I've only read that Larry Wall wanted a better way for working with Sed and Awk than was available. Much is not easily accessible from before ~1992 when Larry Wall open sourced perl. As per Linux, I was pretty sure, that was also built out of the free time of Linus Torvalds, as a basement project to see if he could actually make something as good as Minix. Now, I know I will tick off the Minix users on this forum, but I think that Linus created something slightly better than Minix :) OpenOffice, I will agree with. Though that was more that Linux wanted to grow as a Desktop OS, rather than just as server OS. Unix and C grew together. New features in C allowed for new features in Unix. New features in Unix allowed for new features in C. C, was a logical extension of BPL(I think it was BPL), which never really grew in spite of languages... just an evolutionary matter. -- Jamie Payne	[reply]
Re^5: Death and Return of TIMTOWTDI by mpeppler (Vicar) on Jul 04, 2004 at 09:26 UTC
Much is not easily accessible from before ~1992 when Larry Wall open sourced perl. I was using perl in 1990, back when Open Source was called "freeware", and that was perl 3.0xx. See perldoc perlhist for more details... Michael	[reply]
Re^6: Death and Return of TIMTOWTDI by dakedesu (Scribe) on Jul 05, 2004 at 15:35 UTC
Well, good to see perl has an official history document. Generally with anything to do with computer history, there is a lot of confusion that reigns by people who think they know it, and really not know it. I've had quite a few arguments in computer history. I guess it was kind of daft to mention some of it in this thread, and not expect the arguments to appear here. -- Jamie Payne	[reply]
Re^5: Death and Return of TIMTOWTDI by adrianh (Chancellor) on Jul 04, 2004 at 13:49 UTC
I don't know... I've only read that Larry Wall wanted a better way for working with Sed and Awk than was available. Much is not easily accessible from before ~1992 when Larry Wall open sourced perl. The perl source has been available since Larry released perl 1.0 back in 88. You can find this out, look at the source, and discover many other interesting Perl facts, at http://history.perl.org/.	[reply]
Re^6: Death and Return of TIMTOWTDI by dakedesu (Scribe) on Jul 05, 2004 at 15:37 UTC
All I can say in my defense now, is that I relied on a faulty source for my perl history. -- Jamie Payne	[reply]


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