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Re: Re: Re: The quantity vs. quality lesson

by perrin (Chancellor)
on Jun 01, 2004 at 20:23 UTC ( [id://358533]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: The quantity vs. quality lesson
in thread The quantity vs. quality lesson

No, it has not been tried, at least not by p5ee. Setting up a mailing list and one web page does not amount to much. If you really want this to work, you need to promote it. You also have to have something to promote, i.e. more than just ideas. This would mean a starter set of modules, a clear set of criteria for how modules are chosen, a procedure for nominating and approving modules, and possibly a separate distribution source which provides ready-to-use binaries or at least a one-shot source download with an automated build script. The p5ee project had no clear goal, and there were many people who wanted to define a new set of APIs rather than choose existing CPAN modules.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The quantity vs. quality lesson
by DrHyde (Prior) on Jun 02, 2004 at 09:36 UTC
    The clear goal was to do what you said - at least from what I gathered from the list before I unsubscribed in disgust at how pointless it all was. Achieving it was the problem.
      I was on the list pretty much from day one, and there was never an agreement that creating a special distribution of CPAN modules was a goal. Most of the talk was about creating an API similar to J2EE that existing modules could be glued into. That's a big task with little payoff for people who already have working solutions, and it got nowhere. There was a meeting at OSCON that year where we explicitly discussed what the goal of the project was. At the end of that conversation, it was clear that the only thing everyone really wanted out of it was marketing and promotion of Perl as an enterprise solution. That conversation was basically the end of the project as far as I was concerned, since there was no technical goal and we were not prepared to become a marketing group.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The quantity vs. quality lesson
by BUU (Prior) on Jun 02, 2004 at 07:47 UTC
    I'm a tad confused, do you think you could elaborate what exactly you are suggesting here? All I've gotten out of it was "choose a group of modules and distribute them". Choose which modules? Why?
      Fatvamp is complaining that too much of CPAN is not good, and that QA is needed. I am suggesting that rather than reject things from CPAN, the solution is to make a "best of" distribution of QA'ed modules from CPAN.

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