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Re: Re: Fearing the demise of Perl

by blue_cowdawg (Monsignor)
on May 21, 2004 at 13:02 UTC ( [id://355262]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Fearing the demise of Perl
in thread Fearing the demise of Perl

      think of the time when you were "young and foolish".

When I was "young and foolish", and boy did I have my moments, I got my "young and foolish" butt smacked around when I said stupid things. You are not going to learn how foolish you are unless "older and wiser" (or at least more experienced) folks sort you out.

That's not to say anybody is "smacking" Wassercrats around. Although.. I think he likes it when he is.

Youth or inexperience is not an excuse for stupidity. Just one of many explainations.

      At least wassercrats has the due dilligence to try and makes some sense of things. It's not always right, but he tries.

And for that I give him a half point of credit. But in this thread he takes the data and draws a conclusion from left field. More and more people drive down the Garden State Parkway at 100MPH on bald tires so it's an upward trend so I should do it too....

Nahh... I don't think so.

I guess what really gets me going on this topic is I've worked with senior management places where that was how IT decisions were made. They looked at someone's wonderful charts and graphs and bought technology to fit what the "trends" were without bothering to check the source or do any critical analysis of the technology needs of the company.

I watched on helplessly as a complany I worked for spent easily 7 figures rolling out Exchange to replace a Sendmail based infrastructure. They had to retrain all of the nonIT staff, migrate the email data, the accounts and discovered that the load the original 4 mail servers running sendmail handled now had to be done with 18 machines. Maintenance costs rose, new staff was hired to deal with the Exchange servers (we need MSCEs to do this... right?) and on it went. In the end there was a massive layoff of IT staff (mostly programmers) and then later on after I departed for a new job (I wasn't hanging around) the outsourced the entire IT/IS department.

That all started with a Senior Vice President looking at a Microsoft sponsored presentation and saying: " HEY! Exchange is gaining market share! We better get on the bandwagon!"

You can't make stuff like that up... life is stranger than fiction.

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Re: Re: Re: Fearing the demise of Perl
by exussum0 (Vicar) on May 21, 2004 at 13:39 UTC
    Exactly. He made an invalid analysis and it's simple to refute. You've done a better job than I have proving, just 'cause it's "popular" doesn't mean it's "good".

    Smacked..well.. I hope my prof's and mentor's never would do that when I was wrong. I've had people tell me I'm wrong, which is fine. I don't recount anyone calling me an idiot IRL just because I said something that was incorrect. Probably the lack of being able to smack back online beyond crafting a reply.

          Smacked..well.. I hope my prof's and mentor's never would do that when I was wrong.

      When I use the term "smacked" in most contexts I use it in the figurative sense and not the literal. The only time I remember being myself smacked or seeing others smacked for doing something foolish was in my military experience where doing foolish things could get you and your mates killed.

      Of course, I understand that in todays "Politically Correct Military" using physical contact on a recruit or trainee is no longer an option.

        Of course, I understand that in todays "Politically Correct Military" using physical contact on a recruit or trainee is no longer an option.

        No, that's reserved for handling subject populations.

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