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Re^3: Jump to head (replying to)

by tye (Sage)
on May 16, 2004 at 21:02 UTC ( #353819=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: Jump to head
in thread Jump to head

I just do "File -> New window" then Back.

A "replying to" link would be useful so long as it specifies target="_new". Otherwise, we'll increase people getting burned by clicking on something during a preview and coming Back to find that your browser no longer displays your previewed content from the cache.

This and similar behavior became so annoying that I've set IE to "never" expire cached content (which is also annoying but still preferable).

- tye        

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Re: Re^3: Jump to head (replying to)
by flyingmoose (Priest) on May 17, 2004 at 19:36 UTC
    I don't like spawning new windows. IMHO, HTML targets shouldn't ever spawn new windows. Most of the time us Mozilla-philes want no part of new windows, hence why tabbed browsing is so cool. And yep, I do instinctively open nearly everything in a new tab -- I hate it when a link is javascript or something and it doesn't want to act like normal HTML.
      And yep, I do instinctively open nearly everything in a new tab

      Then what do you care what the default target is? In a reasonable browser, requesting that a link be opened into a tab should open it in a tab even if target="_new" is the suggested default behavior in the HTML of the link. This is how my copy of Mozilla behaves.

      I hate it when a link is javascript or something and it doesn't want to act like normal HTML

      I was not considering javascript nor indeed anything other than HTML.

      So the suggested feature would only affect you when you forget to open the link in a new tab. In that case, would you rather have a new window pop up which you can just close if it bothers you, or have the in-process preview be replaced by a new page with the risk that going "Back" doesn't restore your text from the browser cache and the node contents that you were composing are simply lost?

      I don't find that design decision at all difficult (and I particularly dislike target="_new" in most cases).

      Further, for this particular use, I'd find jumping between two tabs (only one of which can be visible at once) to be the wrong way to consult a thread while I was composing a reply to it. So, even if I were in the habit of opening links into tabs, in this particular case I'd make an exception and open a new window so I could view the original node while I'm typing the reply.

      - tye        

        Then what do you care what the default target is?
        I care. I hate every website that fucks around with defaults. A link that opens in a new window is not the default. Whether something should open in the same window, a new window, a new tab, or even a new browser or a new computer, should be under the user's control. Button-1 for opening in the same window, Button-3 for opening in a new window, or whatever is one's preference (perhaps even with a style sheet). Web authors who think they know better than the user what the user wants should burn in hell.

        Abigail

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