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Re: your attitude towards the code you write

by castaway (Parson)
on May 08, 2004 at 07:29 UTC ( [id://351696]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to your attitude towards the code you write

If your co-worker is new to perl, maybe he's just having problems learning? I can barely remember learning my second programming language, but I do believe the 2nd one is the most difficult. You just keep thinking you *know* how to do things in the language you already know, and its 'easy', yet you have to go figure out how to do it all over again. Especlly learning while working to deadlines is very frustrating, you don't have time to stop and try things out, or explore, because there's this constant nag in the background, that you have a time limit.

Some people also just don't like to learn generally, they're not good at new stuff, it just takes ages and lots of repeats to stick in their brains. It's not necessarily a bad thing, though they will tend to always solve similar problems the same way, and not see/understand new or better ways.

Some of use (programmers) are just plain ornery, and get our work done better by trying to show it who's master, and that involves grumbling at it sometimes ,)

As for me, I like solving problems, and learning new stuff, even if I take a while to be convinced of its usefulness sometimes. I hate doing it to deadlines, but thats life I guess. (Especially when the deadline has passed, and people keep finding bugs in my code, and I've gone on to other things... dumdidum..)

Virus, what virus? Do you mean constantly niggling at how to do some bit of coding, while doing other things, like shopping or whatever? I like it, its invigorating!

C.

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virus of the mind
by zetetes (Pilgrim) on May 08, 2004 at 14:38 UTC
    i do have to admit to you all: it's not me who came up with this phrase. a song by heather nova is called like this. and some few days ago, i kinda felt this virus.

    Virus, what virus? Do you mean constantly niggling at how to do some bit of coding, while doing other things, like shopping or whatever?

    yes, that's exactly what i mean by it. i'm kind of schrizophrenic about that: one part of me wants to be present at the other things i'm at and the other part really likes (and thinks it's cool :) )being still busy with the code.

    well no, afaik it's not the 2nd programming language to learn. he tried out all kinda things (asp, php, vb). but i do not have any information about how seriously he was into them.

    i do believe, learning is about posing questions. being able to pose questions to people who might know some things about the problem i'm into (like i'm doing in here). another way is, trying to solve every little thing on your very own. maybe that's the harder and more frustrating way to go - and it is, what he's doing. he doesn't like to pose questions and get hints by others how he could solve a prob. hm. yes, maybe he thinks he should already know everything.

      Heather Nova??? It is to laugh.

      She almost certainly got the phrase from Richard Brodie's book, Virus of the Mind: The New Science of the Meme (1995). The concept of mental viruses was explored deeply and popularized by Richard Dawkins, who (AFAIK) coined the term "memetics". And the idea is older than that. We know, for example, that the beat author William S. Burroughs said "Language is a virus from outer space" some time in the mid '80s.

        oh well than, thanks for mentioning for those ignorants who did not know (me at first). :)

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