in reply to JARTUP (Just Another Reason to Use Perl)
Mustn't be interpreted as an evidence for Perl's superioity, just as evidence for the fact that people stuff the internet with useless comments on wheter a programming language "sucks" or "rules" in their opinion.
The more intersting question would be: What is the best solution for a task - measured only on criteria like : availability - installation requirements - support needs - etc pp. negotiating personal precedence.
Perl is a powerfull tool, but some solutions require different tools. Plain said: Have you ever tried to replace a DBMS with a perl script only because it would be possible ???
And just b.t.w could there be any reason for the massive use of VB by several admins just to get quick solutions?
Have a nice day
All decision is left to your taste
RE (tilly) 2: JARTUP (Just Another Reason to Use Perl)
by tilly (Archbishop) on Sep 28, 2000 at 22:30 UTC
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Agreed absolutely that you should use the right tool for the job. Know the limits of each tool, and don't engage in blind advocacy.
Besides which people tend to pay more attention to your advocacy when you have demonstrated that you try to offer what you consider the best answer in all situations.
As for VB, here are its advantages in my opinion. It is quite good for building quick and dirty GUI interfaces to use on Windows, and Microsoft's integration of it with their line of products, which are widely used. I don't like it as a language, but when the problem fits I reach for VB, not Perl. (OTOH I angle things so that the problem does not often fit...) | [reply] |
RE: RE: JARTUP (Just Another Reason to Use Perl)
by Petruchio (Vicar) on Sep 29, 2000 at 11:45 UTC
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little: "Mustn't be interpreted as an evidence for Perl's superioity"
Actually, it should be. I have discovered a truly remarkable
proof of this, which this post is unfortunately too small
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Ok, I admit it, I use perl incessantly, and I love every second of it, but lets be perfectly honest, there is a right tool for every job. If I'm doing list processing, a LISP variant is probably the right tool. Logical analysis, better look at prolog if I want to get the job done quick. Writing to the processor? Writing an OS? Better look at C and ASM. Lets not forget that Larry Wall and the Porters write perl, and love perl, certainly as much as anyone else around here, and they write it in C. What am I saying??? Right tool, right job... Perl is a GREAT tool, it's the programmer's all purpose chainsaw! I doubt that Quake IV will be written in perl, however.
Just Another Perl Backpacker
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I do agree with you. But as far as my experience goes, I think that Perl is best for general programming, and if speed is an issue, C(++) should be used. But from within Perl, that would mean, writing most stuff in Perl itself, and use the speed-needing code in C, and link it to Perl with XS.
I've used lots of environments, Prolog, Pascal, C (a little), Mapper, Progress 4GL, REXX, but never found a language that suited for so many different tasks like Perl does.
I don't know anything about LISP, but I can't imagine that it would be worth learning if Perl speeds up my productivity as much as it does...
Jouke Visser, Perl 'Adept'
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Petruchio,
So please feel free to e-mail it (or even a link) to me.
And yes, I agree to all who say, that something people like so much that they point out their good experiences with it, seems to be good and efficient.
But does that imply that all other solutions are worse?
I don't trust statistics except those I've made up :-))
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little: "So please feel free to e-mail it (or even a link)
to me."
Actually, it was just a joke... and since the explanation
is sort of interesting, I'll go into it.
Take the equation of this general form, rendered here in
Perl:
($x**$n + $y**$n) == $z**$n;
The Pythagorean Theorem, which you doubtless remember,
involves a special case:
($x**2 + $y**2) == $z**2;
In 1637, Pierre de Fermat claimed that the general equation
was false for any case where ($n > 2); this became known as
Fermat's Last Theorem. The theorem was proven only
recently, in enormously complex fashion, after about 350
years of anguished mathmeticians losing sleep over it.
Which brings us to the joke. Fermat, in describing his
theorem, noted, "I have discovered a truly marvellous
proof, which this margin is too narrow to contain." Which
is fairly ridiculous; he pretty certainly discovered no
such thing. And neither have I.
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