I want to acknowledge all respondents on this thread. I have received feedback that was typical of what I expected and also what I was hoping to hear.

My goal was to see what was out there, and I'm certain there has been an effect and an affect.

PM (imho) needs a little bit of a re-shaping, but that is the guidance I was looking for.

Not only did I see who responded, but felt who was overlooking this thread. I don't know them by anything other than their PM names, but I have seen some of their work outside of this site. They stand for what they believe in, they are diligent and confident, and won't back down or delete shit if called on something.

I'm not a great coder, but I am someone who cares as much about Perl as I do a newbie. However, lines must be drawn, as I'd rather code than have to put "show code" in a sig.

To those on-list, and also those off-list who I've spoken to, merci beaucoup. It is up to you to lead the way for the next generation of lvl9's that are up and coming. This topic was trying to find my own selfish way in regards to PM as a whole.