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Re: detecting $& usage

by Abigail-II (Bishop)
on Jan 27, 2004 at 22:21 UTC ( [id://324551]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: detecting $& usage
in thread detecting $& usage

Have you ever tried to teach an engineer?
I am an engineer. Highly educated as well. And yes, I have trained all kinds of tech people, including engineers.

Abigail

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Re^2:detecting $& usage
by QM (Parson) on Jan 27, 2004 at 23:19 UTC
    MidLifeXis wrote:

    Have you ever tried to teach an engineer? They just want to use what will get their job done. Some are even vehemently against some techie telling them not to do something. Usually, they are pretty good, but there are some that just don't think they need to change.

    Abigail-II wrote:

    I am an engineer. Highly educated as well. And yes, I have trained all kinds of tech people, including engineers.

    Abigail, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with it in general, but I don't think your answer fits the question asked.

    The question was more about difficult engineers, especially when some "software weenie" beneath their station tells them why it's the engineer's fault the script takes forever. Besides the explicit technical question, there's the implicitly political one about dealing with unfun induhviduals. [I didn't notice if anyone responded about legacy code, blaming a 3rd party, and trying to repair the damage.]

    To me, the OP's question, and MidLifeXis's response, seem to be asking:

    In those situations where folks in the OP's situation can't tell the engineer to smarten up without earning significant repurcussions, "How do I make my script run faster today?"
    There have been some useful answers about specifics, and you and others have weighed in about the foolishness of getting into that position in the first place. I hope we can all avoid the level where the entire discussion brings to mind quips about The Helicopter Pilot in a Seattle Fog.

    So, to redirect the question...

    How should the OP respond to the offending individual and others like him in this case?

    -QM
    --
    Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of

      How should the OP respond to the offending individual and others like him in this case?
      I see no harm in telling the truth. That if they use $&, the program slows down. Back it up with benchmarks, if necessary.

      Abigail

        I see no harm in telling the truth. That if they use $&, the program slows down. Back it up with benchmarks, if necessary.
        Fair enough :)

        I was hoping to get some insight into dealing with difficult people. In retrospect I think it's fair to present them with facts. If they choose to ignore the facts, the problem may be unsolvable.

        -QM
        --
        Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of

      Re: http://users.owt.com/lazrchet/humor/msjoke2.htm ++

      Once I stopped laughing my head off, it struck me that this defines the main difference between Win32 and *nix.

      With Windows, users are encouraged to dial an expensive, and usually unhelpful Helpline number, only to be asked a zillion, irrelevant questions--like the doctor that always asks you if you opened your bowels lately, even when you're there for a sprained ankle or sore throat--in order to receive a technically correct, but useless answer.

      With *nix, you only need type "man somecommand" to receive the same!


      Examine what is said, not who speaks.
      "Efficiency is intelligent laziness." -David Dunham
      "Think for yourself!" - Abigail
      Timing (and a little luck) are everything!

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