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by Arunbear (Prior)
on Jan 01, 2004 at 16:00 UTC ( #318123=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Fellow monks, is open source? If so where can I obtain the code?

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Re: source code
by theorbtwo (Prior) on Jan 01, 2004 at 16:29 UTC

    See run your own perlmonks! for a long explanation of my views, and that of many other people, on the subject.

    Short summary: Perlmonks is based on an old (0.9, IIRC) version of The Everything Engine, as is noted at the bottom of every page (didn't look very hard, did you?). Everything is Open Source ("under the same terms as perl itself", IIRC). However, there's been quite a bit of divergent evolution since then, and the exact code that Perl Monks runs on is not available, execept to the gods and members of pmdev. (In case you were wondering, since we distribute only output, not binaries, most of the GPL does not apply. In any case, we could go with the Artistic License, and be pretty sure that we're not breaking with the "artistic vision of the original author", since the orignal authors are mostly gods, and if they objected they could easily do something about it. It's quite legal, I just don't agree with it.)

    Warning: Unless otherwise stated, code is untested. Do not use without understanding. Code is posted in the hopes it is useful, but without warranty. All copyrights are relinquished into the public domain unless otherwise stated. I am not an angel. I am capable of error, and err on a fairly regular basis. If I made a mistake, please let me know (such as by replying to this node).

      Actually, the PM engine is based on Everything 0.8.3. It would be good if it were 0.9-based - all the overlapping work done at this site, Everything2, and at EveryDevel could be shared back and forth. Alas..

      The reasons for not opening this site's codebase have been discussed at length before, and while you disagree, I largely follow the arguments and agree with the conclusions on the side of the gods. This doesn't mean I'm satisfied with the status quo, and I can't imagine any of the gods is either. Noone is trying to spite you or wants to keep a lid on things; I'm pretty sure that at heart everyone involved understands and shares your sentiment of wanting everyone who feels the urge to be able to contribute. Unfortunately this just doesn't seem feasible right now.

      The most promising endeavour in the long term would be to port PM to E core 0.9; ultimately, then, the work here would be shared back to EveryDevel and could be available publicly from there. Any contributions would flow back and forth, and whoever wanted to contributed could do so by improving the base E core. This would benefit far more people than just PM, as well.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

      Everything is Open Source ("under the same terms as perl itself", IIRC)

      $ perl -e 'print "true\n" if Everything eq "Everything"' true

      It seems that in real life, Everything (the bare word) ne "Everything" ;) Gotta fix my Perl now!

      P.S. nice pun, theorbtwo++ ;)

Re: source code
by Ovid (Cardinal) on Jan 01, 2004 at 16:28 UTC
Re: source code
by davido (Cardinal) on Jan 01, 2004 at 16:30 UTC
    perlmonks runs on the everything2 engine, IIRC. It is available here:

    As the FAQ states, don't expect to be able to get it running "unless you can hack some serious Perl."

    While the everything2 backend engine is publically available, I don't believe that the patches specific to the site are available to anyone other than the gods and the pmdev clans.

    Have fun...


      Unfortunately it is an older version of that engine as I wrote in another node.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

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