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Re: Re: Re: Re: Short routines matter more in OO?

by Juerd (Abbot)
on Oct 14, 2003 at 07:09 UTC ( [id://299036]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: Re: Short routines matter more in OO?
in thread Short routines matter more in OO?

I hate dealing with code where methods only do one or two lines of action and there are many many such methods and subs.

So do I, so do I. I like short methods, not tiny ones :) I think screen page (24 lines) size is a good size for subs (methods or non-methods) and anything much larger should be taken apart.

Subs with only one or two meaningful lines are not what I was talking about when I meant short subs. They're a little too short :)

I do prefer one-line subs to five-line subs when it comes to often repeated code.

sub property1 { my ($self, $value) = @_; @_ >= 2 and $self->{property1} = $value; # update: s/>/>=/ $self->{property1}; # update: s/property/pro +perty1/ } sub property2 { my ($self, $value) = @_; @_ >= 2 and $self->{property2} = $value; # update: s/>/>=/ $self->{property2}; # update: s/property/pro +perty2/ }
versus
sub property1 : Property; sub property2 : Property;

Juerd # { site => 'juerd.nl', plp_site => 'plp.juerd.nl', do_not_use => 'spamtrap' }

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Short routines matter more in OO?
by tilly (Archbishop) on Oct 14, 2003 at 13:21 UTC
    Why are you assigning to $self->{"property$n"} and then returning $self->{property}?

    Your @_ test also makes little sense to me. If you are trying to write get/set routines, you would want to get on a single routine, set on 2, and think about throwing an error on 3 or more. Your methods as written require an extra argument to say, "set, pretty please".

    I was also going to chide you for having methods called property1, property2 without thinking through what you are going to do if you had more than 2 properties, and then I realized that you were likely talking properties of an object, not a computer representation of physical properties. :-)

    Oh, right. If you are going to have a lot of very similar code, then I think that autogenerating can be good. (Assuming, of course, that the person who will take over the code is capable of figuring out autogenerated code...) For instance:

    foreach my $accessor (@object_properties) { no strict 'refs'; *$accessor = sub { my $self = shift; $self->{$accessor} = shift if @_; $self->{$accessor}; }; }
    (Yeah, yeah. A million CPAN modules implement variations on the above for you.)

      Why are you assigning to $self->{"property$n"} and then returning $self->{property}?

      That is a typo, which I then copied.

      Your @_ test also makes little sense to me. If you are trying to write get/set routines, you would want to get on a single routine, set on 2, and think about throwing an error on 3 or more.

      Yes. This is another typo. Should have been >=, not >. The error on 3 or more makes sense, but I usually forget those.

      Fortunately, I have Attribute::Property, so I can even write working code when I'm as tired as I was when I wrote that node.

      If you are going to have a lot of very similar code, then I think that autogenerating can be good.

      I've put all my favourite object-property-code in Attribute::Property, together with xmath. It was originally made to allow $foo->bar = 14; syntax, but I use it now mostly because it makes creating classes much easier. (And when I'm tired, apparently this means I make less mistakes. See the other node: I made no mistake in the lines that use : Property :-))

      Juerd # { site => 'juerd.nl', plp_site => 'plp.juerd.nl', do_not_use => 'spamtrap' }

        I would wonder whether Attribute::Property suffers from the same issue that came up at How to redefine subroutines with Attribute::Handlers that run at BEGIN time? (subsequently reported to p5p here). Namely that attribute wrapping of functions normally is done in INIT or CHECK blocks, but those are only run once in the lifetime of the interpreter.

        Therefore code which is lazily loaded by do, require, AUTOLOAD, Apache::Reload etc won't have existed at the right time for the attributes to actually have been properly installed, therefore leading to mysteriously failing code.

        Basically what I am saying is that attributes, while they certainly win on the "cool tricks" scale, are not something that I really want to depend on.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Short routines matter more in OO?
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Oct 14, 2003 at 07:22 UTC

    I was reviewing some of my code and it looks like my sub lengths (excluding short utility subs that would probably be macros in C or inline in other languages) seem to be around 50-150 lines.


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