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Re: Re: Non-English posts on Perlmonks

by Vennis (Pilgrim)
on Jul 10, 2003 at 13:10 UTC ( [id://272958]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


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Re: Re: Re: Non-English posts on Perlmonks
by grantm (Parson) on Jul 10, 2003 at 19:21 UTC
    If people ask a question in english and you don't fully understand it.. you just say, 'screw it, i don't understand it so i don't care'

    Actually, I didn't say "screw it" - you did, so please don't accuse me of having an "attitude". I was simply saying that if you cannot communicate with someone then you probably can't help them, so move on. There are many, many monks from all over the world and it is likely that one of them will be able to help - if only to translate the question and the responses.

    In your original post you said "You will miss usefull comments of people that dont speak your language". To which I say "so what, we all do that every day". Google reports there are 500K web pages about Perl written in German, 300K each in Japanese and French, 200K in Russian, 90K in Spanish, 80K in Chinese ... I don't speak any of those languages so I miss out on every single one of those comments.

    But I come back to my original point - what solution do you propose? Are you suggesting that everyone should learn English before posting here? I am ashamed to say that I only speak English. I tried (and failed) to learn German at school and it is a much easier language to learn than English (except for that funky gender thing :-)). I have nothing but respect for people who are fluent in multiple languages. That does not mean we should penalise those who are not.

      Hello, I'm french and it's true I can't complain, since in france the perl monks are pretty active, and can solve much of the problems I come across. I myself agree with the fact that "You will miss usefull comments of people ..." , since there is no sharing of information ... But, on the other hand, you can't blame someone who wouldn't be able to express himself in english (there I had so much trouble formulating this sentence ;o) The solution would be this (in my opinion): - when somebody exposes a problem in another langage than english, then someone should translate it if that question goes unanswered, or if it is really relevant to the entire community. I don't think everyone would enjoy much the translation of the most common questions. So in this case I would encourage the good souls out there to help others in translating there messages in the langage of choice that is Fr.. arghh no English ;o) Or perhaps could we ask our questions writing perl code ??? After all Larry Wall is a linguist, and most probably intends to make of perl the perfect langage that would unify all nations, and then the world would be perfect, and blah blah blah ;o) Tripnotik PS: excuse my french ...

        Tres bien :-)

        If anything, PerlMonks should be made a multi-language site. Another challenge for pmdev/gods - recreate all the posting sections we have now in multiple other languages. And _then_ we have a language user setting that specifies prefered language. And *___*then*___* we incorporate text-to-speech and speech recognition software into the site in each language, and THEN...! OKay okay, asking for too much here. Just give me the voice recognition for posting. "begin post. begin code block. shebang line. use warnings. use strict." :)


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