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Proportional Reputation

by benn (Vicar)
on May 01, 2003 at 13:22 UTC ( [id://254621]=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Forgive me if this is an old saw, but I Super Search'ed and went back a fair way in Discussion history and couldn't find it, so...

Would it be more useful to be able to see a node's reputation as a proportion of votes cast, rather than simply the overall total, much like the moderation system does already? Then one could see that (say) a +10 node had had 100 votes cast (-45,+55), and the Monastery was fairly evenly split on the matter, rather than having had only 10 votes, but all positive.

It seems that it would only need a small change to the engine, but would benefits Monks greatly, allowing them to judge better the 'value' of their nodes and others.

Cheers,
Ben.

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Re: Proportional Reputation
by ajt (Prior) on May 01, 2003 at 14:01 UTC

    There is a long and interesting discussion called Node Tension that discusses this and similar ideas.


    --
    ajt
      Aha - thanks! I went back to about June 02, so just missed this. 'Tension' looks (to my bear-of-little-brain) a tiny bit complex though - I think simply "-10 (-30/+20)" would be more self-explanatory.
Re: Proportional Reputation
by talexb (Chancellor) on May 01, 2003 at 15:51 UTC

    The same thing could be obtained by simply counting the number of votes. Thus from +10 (100 votes) one could infer that the split was (-45/+55).

    I'm not sure that this additional information would warrant the resulting increase in server load -- response time is high to begin with.

    --t. alex
    Life is short: get busy!
Re: Proportional Reputation
by crenz (Priest) on May 02, 2003 at 10:15 UTC

    Actually, I quite like mojotoad's idea of having a list of "Most Contentious Nodes" (see Re: Node Tension). It should not be too much of a load on the server and makes a lot more sense to me.

      A potential drawback to measuring and publishing a Most Controversial Nodes list would be that of encouraging controversy for controversy's sake.

      I enjoy as much as the next monk heated discussions, debate, and especially the multiplicity of viewpoints, opinions, and experiences that folks bring to the Monastery.   But I moreso enjoy Perl Monks as an oasis of civil, considerate behavior amidst the often rude and flaming desert that is the Internet.

      So my guess is that the interesting info and feedback that Most Controversial Nodes would provide could easily be overshadowed by negative impact.   KnowwhatImeanVerne?
        cheers,
        ybiC

        striving toward Perl Adept
        (it's pronounced "why-bick")

        encouraging controversy for controversy's sake

        Quite true also... thanks for pointing that out; I was maybe getting carried away by my curiosity :).

        > encouraging controversy for controversy's sake.

        ...and yet, I have to say that there is a valid distinction between a reputation 12 node that has been voted on a mere 12 times, and one that has garnered 100 votes, with a mild bias in favor of the good.

        This distinction may be illuminating, but of course we must also keep in mind that we don't see a node's reputation until after we've made a decision about it ourselves.

        ...All the world looks like -well- all the world, when your hammer is Perl.
        ---v

Re: Proportional Reputation
by tjh (Curate) on May 03, 2003 at 19:39 UTC
    "... allowing them to judge better the 'value' of their nodes and others."

    There are so many differing reasons monks upvote or downvote nodes that it may be naive of a member to put too much faith in whether his node, or others, were 'valuable' based on votes.

    The node tension discussion mentioned above is interesting and would be another bit of node data that I'd find intriguing as an additional piece of info (leaving the current net votes showing as well), but it still couldn't be a realistic guide to a node's value. If it was, we'd probably already have a Super Search feature letting us search for "Nodes with >= X Reputation"...

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