Randal, why do you continue to spread FUD throughout the community on such things? Your name is on EPP though you wrote none of it yet I don't see the author of that book here whining. This type of whining makes us all look bad as we can't seem to shut you up on such petty topics. I would be willing to bet that there is no content left in the Camel3 that you could claim copyright to. How are we supposed to create Perl6 when we can't even get along on this level? Just for this, I'm going to order as many Camel3 books $3k will buy and give them out on the street. You claim you want peace and closure. May I suggest you work at it a little more ernestly than "ORA was mean to me so now I want to punish them". Having a big mouth got you into trouble before Randal. LEARN!