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(wil) Re: Re: New Display Types

by wil (Priest)
on Jul 12, 2002 at 14:21 UTC ( #181275=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: New Display Types
in thread New Display Types

I disagree. Making the print interface of perlmonks too accessible and usable would mean a few users would use that instead of the main interface and thus perlmonks will loose out on advertising revenues (not good), and a few community-building features such as the chatterbox.

If you prefer to browse perlmonks with a similar interface to print, then there's a setting in your user settings to turn off all nodelets, which might help.

- wil

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Re: New Display Types
by Abigail-II (Bishop) on Jul 12, 2002 at 14:28 UTC
    Yes, but that would turn off all the nodelets everywhere but the frontpage. That would be fine with me, except that the chatterbox nodelet is used to signal that someone replied to your node.

    Now, I could just ignore whatever is replied to my posts, but that wouldn't be very friendly. If there's a way to be notified one of your posts was replied to without have to use a nodelet, I would certainly like to know.


      That's a fair enough point. The only way I can think of would be to check your message inbox on a regular basis.

      Coming back to my original point, however, I wouldn't like to see advertisements appearing on the printed version of pages, and I am concerned that if we make alternative interfaces too appealing to users then we are risking shooting ourselves in the foot by loosing out on ad revenues and referrals to Pair (if applicable). Not to mention the disruption to the whole idea of a community ...

      This is exactly why I refrained from making a post asking for &displaytype=print to be appended onto the end of all links in the print display so that people could not navigate around through the print interface.

      - wil
        I understand your concern about the ads, but I don't get the "community" problem. Why would you disrupt the whole idea of a "community" if you don't see nodelets? One can already turn them off in the usersettings, there's even a button to turn them all off, IIRC.

        Or do you consider me not part of the "community" because I don't bother with the chatterbox? I consider myself part of the "Perl community", and that something I find scary enough already - too small, too self centered. I really don't like to subdivide that into yet smaller communities, should I be a member of the "communities" of #perl, perlmonks, perladvocates, perlporters, philly-pms, nyc-pms, amsterdam-pms, fun-with-perlers, usenetperlers, etc, just because I communicate on a certain forum? There are only 3 dinners at a YAPC! Furthermore, the chatterbox has the most awkward interface possible, just a 10 character text box, and you need to pull to see a what others say. In fact, it's so awful that many people use a special client for the chatterbox - but if people do, they would participate without needing the nodelet.

        Oh well, not a biggy. The print view gives a nice clean page, but it looks like you always have to download the "regular" page first anyway, so I probably will mostly use the regular pages.


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