You should try Java. It is very well designed and garbage collection takes away all that 'having to walk down the driveway' stuff. No but really it scales very well too. The only problem with Java is, is that it is not Perl. With Java you have to think(just hacking causes mental stress with the java compiler) whereas with perl you just slip on your favourite hacking shoes and away you go. I see VB scattered here and there, has the world gone mad!! VB is /(s?hMit)*/ and the syntax is crap(what's wrong with ending statements with a ';'? Also the fact that VB keeps you on a windows computer is a travesty. Once I have finished my next VB project I am kicking MS out(it hasn't paid its rent). So java says goodbye(am I sinning in the Monestry with this): public class Goodbye { public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println("Goodbye"); } } // Fu^k print "Goodbye"; Now thats better.