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Re^2: Perl DBI and Foreign Keys

by Marshall (Canon)
on Apr 08, 2019 at 11:19 UTC ( [id://1232289]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Perl DBI and Foreign Keys
in thread Perl DBI and Foreign Keys

The DB will create a unique id for each row whether I tell it do that or not. When I do an INSERT and then ask: my $cur_id = $dbh->last_insert_id; the DB gives me an id for my $dbh connection handle. This will work even if there are multiple writers to the DB. I should not increment that number or screw around with it in any way - it could be that 14 more inserts have happened in the meantime. This id number will be for the last insert that my connection did. I can use that number to write (INSERT) additional rows into another table within the DB. If I run the initial write and then id query and subsequent writes all as one transaction, then in theory with an ACID compliant DB, all will be fine. In practice that is not true because of the way the hardware works - different subject...

There is no easier way to get a unique number than to ask the DB to do it for you. This avoids all sorts of complications like you mentioned. "autoincrement" does not mean that my id numbers, for my connection will be sequential. This just tells the DB to generate these numbers on its own.

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Re^3: Perl DBI and Foreign Keys
by bliako (Monsignor) on Apr 08, 2019 at 11:36 UTC

    I agree, but you were concerned about the caveats of that approach, that's all.

    The DB will create a unique id for each row whether I tell it do that or not.

    I am under the impression that if a field is not AUTO_INCREMENT then it expects you to fill its value or it will take its default value if any.

    I like this article: https://medium.com/ingeniouslysimple/why-did-we-shift-away-from-database-generated-ids-7e0e54a49bb3

      I am under the impression that if a field is not AUTO_INCREMENT then it expects you to fill its value or it will take its default value if any.
      Well... Not exactly...consider this code..
      #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use DBI; my $dbfile = "whatever.sqlite"; my $dbh = DBI->connect("dbi:SQLite:dbname=$dbfile","","",{RaiseError = +> 1}) or die "Couldn't connect to database: " . DBI->errstr; $dbh->do ("CREATE TABLE ScoreCard ( Url varchar(80) DEFAULT '', DateTime varchar(20) DEFAULT '1995-12-30 00:00:01', Desc varchar(100) DEFAULT '' ); "); $dbh->do ("CREATE TABLE Participants ( id integer PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT, Url varchar(80) , Name varchar(10) DEFAULT '' ); ");
      You will see that the ScoreCard table winds up containing an extra field, "rowid" that I didn't specify in CREATE TABLE ScoreCard. Note: You need a program to show the actual created DB fields. That is a unique id that SQL will assign on it own. In the Participants TABLE, that field doesn't exist because I called it "id" and gave some rules for this PRIMARY KEY.

      I did take a look at your article and am still thinking about it. I did have to burst out laughing at this part:
      "We don’t want our complexity to grow linearly as we add more functionality into the system, which would drastically slow us down as we grow in the eyes of both business and value confidence." My gosh we only wish that complexity grew linearly with functionality. Complexity appears to grow exponentially with functionality. What does "growing in the eyes of value confidence" mean? What!?

        You will see that the ScoreCard table winds up containing an extra field, "rowid" that I didn't specify in CREATE TABLE ScoreCard.
        That is SQLite specific, documented under https://sqlite.org/lang_createtable.html#rowid
        Except for WITHOUT ROWID tables, all rows within SQLite tables have a 64-bit signed integer key that uniquely identifies the row within its table. …
        BTW SQLite's last_insert_rowid() documentation explicitly refers to "the database connection which invoked the function", so should work with multiple parallel insertions.

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