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(Ovid - Utopia does not exist) Re: The true PerlMonks Experience

by Ovid (Cardinal)
on Nov 02, 2001 at 02:10 UTC ( #122697=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to The true PerlMonks Experience

Definition of Utopia: A place that someone is guaranteed to hate.

You really can't win if you're expecting everything to live up to your expectations because the second it does, someone will make a post like yours: "this site sucks because of X".

As I think I made clear in Stubborn as a Saint, I'm hardly the greatest Perl programmer. In fact, I make some pretty boneheaded errors at times. Most of the Saints who have less XP than I do are probably better Perl programmers than I am. But, if you check Voting/Experience System, nowhere is the claim made that XP == ability with Perl. If it did, I'd be paid a heck of a lot more than I am now :)

I don't know who you are and I don't wish to offend, but these posts contribute nothing to this site. No community will have everyone happy. That's because a community ultimately is comprised of people. This site is merely where this community happens to congregate. It's impossible to avoid personality conflicts and some people will consistently behave in ways that others find objectionable.

I know that I usually receive a few personality "upvotes" on my posts. That kind of bugs me, too, but that's the way things are. I've chatted with quite a few monks who try to figure out why a relatively innocuous post gets plenty of XP. Who knows? Shrug it off. Admittedly, I've ranted about this same subject a time or two, but I usually come back to sanity and realize that in the long run, what's important is sitting down with a friend over a cup of coffee. What's important is hanging out with your brother and commiserating over ex-girlfriends. What's important is finding out what's meaningful to you, not what some anonymous person does on a Web site.


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Re: (Ovid - Utopia does not exist) Re: The true PerlMonks Experience
by jeroenes (Priest) on Nov 02, 2001 at 08:44 UTC
    I want to second Ovid here with more than a mere '++'.

    A (happy) saint myself, I'm not a particular good programmer. I mostly get where I want to go with perl, but always tripling over my own fingers. A large fraction (if not most) of the higher-level monks code better than I do (although I have my moments, I hope). Actually, a lot of the programming skills I possess I have learned here. tilly really must be mentioned in this respect, as he showed me many good practices, modest as he may be elsewhere in this thread. My case shows that you can be really sure that XP does not relate so much on perl coding abilities.

    The fact that I grew to be a saint here has some other background. Most of it comes back to that I really love being present here. And that I try to pass on the stuff that I learned.

    "We are not alone"(FZ)


      The 5 members of the Perl Cabal that I mentioned have at least 20 years programming experience apiece. That list includes 2 past pumpkings, and all have had considerable influence on the Perl language.

      In fact it is somewhat presumptuous for me to indicate that someone might, however mistakenly, mistake my experience as being on the same order as theirs...

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