Wanted to jump in and explain my name as well. My first name is Desiree, which thankfully due to the gods of my world has over the course of time been shortened to dez. I am known to many by dez and only people who do not know me to well still use the name Desiree. The basic comes in with a simple explanation of the fact that I am nothing more than a WYSIWIG person. I have no hidden agendas nothing fancy and wysiwigdez never really seemed proper, plus I have a deep and personal attachment to a special piece of literature titled the "Basic Text", thus basicdez has been my logon for years (6 anyhow). Thanks for listening. Now back to researching perl.