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Re^4: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018

by usemodperl (Beadle)
on Jun 20, 2018 at 16:11 UTC ( #1217015=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
in thread The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018

Have you considered actually raising these issues with the people who are in a position to... respond with authority?

People are very defensive about their bad ideas. I have lots of experience failing to convince them otherwise and have learned to spot and avoid those who are truly committed. I'm quite sure they would respond with all the reasons why I am wrong.

Besides, there is much more to this situation than meets the eye, and I'm not inside so they won't listen and may not be able to: (from stackoverflow: Hm... seems here is some background "war" between Perl institute (owner of cpan.org) and Perl foundation (owner of metacpan.org).

All the camels in my browser history and bookmarks are changing to four red dots. What do they mean? Hopefully meta can get legal permission to use the camel trademark for favicon!

I don't think breakage is going to be a problem.

It's already broken: redirects "fix" it. Some linux distro barfed recently on cpan being changed to mcpan... and it will get worse.

perl -MO=Deparse -e "S U M E D O E P L R"
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Re^5: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
by marto (Cardinal) on Jun 21, 2018 at 04:50 UTC

    "I'm quite sure they would respond with all the reasons why I am wrong."

    So, a couple of things:

    "Besides, there is much more to this situation than meets the eye"

    If you're going to cite something as a source, at least read it:

    "Hm... seems here is some background "war" between Perl institute (owner of cpan.org) and Perl foundation (owner of metacpan.org). Not working search.cpan.org hurts perl, so if someone want stop search.cpan.org it should at least put to search.cpan.org an redirector what should redirect requests to the metacpan.org. The current status is really boring. BTW, here is already one reopen vote - voting to reopen too, (and reformulate the question) to: how to write a a simple PSGI cpan->metacpan redirector... ;) jm666 May 19 '14 at 14:30

    There is no background war. The Perl Institute does not exist. I took that over a long time ago, then merged it with The Perl Foundation. The cpan.org domain is different than a particular host. Elaine Ashton and Jarkko Hientenami control the domain records, but not every host. search.cpan.org is run by Graham Barr (by himself). brian d foy May 19 '14 at 14:48

    chromatic has been very clear in correcting the users misinformation.

    "it's already broken: redirects "fix" it."

    This is also untrue. search.cpan.org currently works, it won't redirect to metacpan until the 25th, and even then searching won't be broken, searches will just redirect to the same place cpan.org has taken you for years.

      If you're going to cite something as a source, at least read it

      Please excuse my ignorance (everyone). I can only read about half of stackoverflow because they use google javascript, so I don't expand the discussions. It's not usually a problem while seeking wisdom but this time I got bit, and now the downvotes make perfect sense.

      But I was very serious about the camel favicon

      STOP REINVENTING WHEELS, START BUILDING SPACE ROCKETS!CPAN 🐫

        "But I was very serious about the camel favicon ☺"

        You seemed 'serious' about all the points you made, but none of them are true. You are aware you can't see all the responses to yet make an accusation based upon an incorrect comment from a random internet user? The statement that "it's already broken: redirects "fix" it.", demonstrably incorrect. I see the favicon for search.cpan without issue, tested on several machines, different networks and browsers. Regarding the metacpan favicon, as far as 'What do they mean?', if you look at the metacpan logo this should be apparent.

Re^5: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Jun 20, 2018 at 16:34 UTC
    People are very defensive about their bad ideas.

    Agree. You don't have to keep it up though. :P

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