You can't fix the gaping holes in your reasoning so instead you try to start a new debate about what you think I believe.

what "gaping holes" exactly? when you say "gaping holes" i am not sure what you mean because i have only provided my beliefs and discoveries. you came to me, asked me about my own beliefs, then said the beliefs were ridiculous... in not so many words. when i asked about your beliefs you seemingly hid behind your computer and did not say anything about it and have chosen the defensive path (which is fine but it does hinder a conversation lol). that is the act of a coward. and you protect that cowardliness by beating around the bush, deflecting, and talking in circles. lol

also, get it right. an agnostic person does not claim to KNOW if any god exists or not. i do not KNOW (theist) or DENY (atheist) if any god exists, and you seem to think that i do in fact. i have only gave you discoveries and my BELIEFS. you need to stop misleading based on your opinions and stop trying to be cool in front of your friends. what the hell is this? high school?

my predictions were correct! you responded with yet another personal attack! nice deflection skills!

i will ask again. what is your beliefs? or are you just trolling me? me asking about your beliefs, in a thread about if the universe was created or not, is not an attempt to deflect. it is an attempt to continue a productive conversation. if you aint ready to tell your beliefs then your in the wrong conversation sir.