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Re^3: [OT] Python vs R

by sundialsvc4 (Abbot)
on May 31, 2017 at 17:03 UTC ( [id://1191739]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


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Re^4: [OT] Python vs R
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on May 31, 2017 at 21:37 UTC

    Python also has a powerful implementation of LISP-style lists
    This is the second time, since your second coming, you've drawn attention to the amazing similarities between Python and LISP. You've been asked before to elaborate on this. I'd be interested to learn why you feel Python is more LISP-like than, say, Perl.

    Note that in this Python mailing list thread the author retracted a similar casual claim to yours:

    I hereby once and for ever more retract my casual suggestion that Lisp had or may have had any direct influence on Python. I was clearly in error, in part having specifically mis-remembered some statements I read long ago by Guido, which in retrospect I find I had completely backwards.

      > > Python also has a powerful implementation of LISP-style lists

      Of course this is BS

      Python "lists" are exactly like Perl "arrays" , ie an implementation as a vector of pointers. °

      But Lisp lists are linked lists, like emulated in Higher Order Perl. I.e. every element has additional to a value a pointer (link) to its successor element. This makes referencing a higher index very expensive because you have to traverse the whole list, but has other advantages (splitting is trivial).

      So these "lists" are fundamentally different data structures only sharing similar names!

      But ...

      ... I wonder why you guys spend time arguing against the PerlTrump who combines kindergarten knowledge with a ridiculously huge ego ? ? ?

      Just compose one "hall of shame" thread listing and linking his worst 20- 100 nonsense statements and keep referencing it in your replies.

      The regulars know him already and the newbees will quickly grasp his abysmal wisdom from this master thread.

      Why wasting energy?

      See also:

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
      Je suis Charlie!

      °) Python (well numpy) has indeed an "array" class as a wrapper around C arrays only allowing elements of same type and size, something we could emulate with pack and substr

Re^4: [OT] Python vs R
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on May 31, 2017 at 17:13 UTC
    Now, may I gently remind you all ... in this case, I do absolutely know what I am talking about, because I have done this.

    I shall forcefully remind you that your Perl is atrocious and if you hadn't posted a semi-competent piece of code today, first I can remember, I would say your Perl is non-existent. Yet you have frequently expressed your belief that you are an expert in Perl and all kinds of programming tasks for which none of us here has ever seen a hint of evidence. The 800lb salt crystals being taken with your fresh claims of expertise are well deserved.

Re^4: [OT] Python vs R
by Anonymous Monk on May 31, 2017 at 18:35 UTC
    I! See! That! Python! And! R! Are! Very! Different! But! You're! Still! Missing! The! Point!

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