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Re^6: Rand'n'Brand

by shmem (Chancellor)
on Mar 30, 2017 at 20:54 UTC ( [id://1186545]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^5: Rand�n�Brand
in thread Ayn Rand vs. Stewart Brand

As Anonymous Monk said, thermodynamics is one aspect. There are others.

One could say that life is a state machine. If an event leads to an unresolvable state, the engine stops, and after consuming the timeout - if any - exits, if no outside event comes in which resolves the state at hand.

Looking at the case of somebody with a heart attack: does some help from outside come in (0|1)? Does it come in time to avoid damage (0|1)? As time progresses, so does the damage (think last loop of DESTROY), until the state machine finally exits.

There's the famous psychologist Victor Frankl who coined life (and reality, irreality and future, past, present) in terms of decisions. Life is a constant call for decisions. Among all the possibilities for decisions at hand, only the chosen one can become a reality; all others are irreal after the decision making. So reality is the sum of all decisions taken; and when there are no more decisions available, life ends.

And that's what's pretty binary: either you decide yourself, or you don't (in which case other parts of the state machine might or not carry out the choice for you).

Of course the engines of the layers physics (time, space, matter, energy) and psychics (configuration of the former) are intertwined, so there is never a clear binary state except the last, which has been one, and now and then is zero (apologists of reincarnation object, of course).

Third, if dimensions are quantised, so must be time, energy, and gravitation, since they are intertwined. This resolves the race of Achilles and the tortoise. Even if we give in to Zenon and trade division for time, there is no infinite (=eternal) division: it stops at the quantum level. Either Achilles passed the tortoise, or didn't (0|1). That's a quantum leap in space and time. Of which we can conclude that both Achilles and the tortoise are bucking in their advancement - as we all do. *sigh*

perl -le'print map{pack c,($-++?1:13)+ord}split//,ESEL'

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Re^7: Rand'n'Brand
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Mar 30, 2017 at 21:54 UTC
    there is no infinite (=eternal) division: it stops at the quantum level.

    If you have to resort to quantum physical arguments to make your case, you already lost! :)


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". The enemy of (IT) success is complexity.
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

      That hasn't been resorting to, but underpinning the argument :)
      (and the point of that underpinning is that even something as simple as motion is binary)

      perl -le'print map{pack c,($-++?1:13)+ord}split//,ESEL'
        even something as simple as motion is binary)

        Which direction does 1 represent?


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". The enemy of (IT) success is complexity.
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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