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Development of PerlMonks "Mobile" is now open for business

by jdporter (Chancellor)
on Nov 07, 2016 at 17:29 UTC ( [id://1175451]=pmdevtopic: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

One of the things that people have said we ought to have is a mobile version of the site. I agree. :-) So to get development started, I have set up a small framework for the developers to work on. There are three infrastructure nodes which any pmdev members can submit patches to:

As I post this, all three are empty except for some comments to show what kind of code they could contain.

To access the "mobile" version of the site, insert the /mobile/ path component in the URL, for example:

[href://mobile/?node=SOPW] => mobile/?node=SOPW
Hopefully someday we can make the necessary DNS changes to allow the mobile site to be accessed at m.perlmonks.org.

We need people who are good with CSS and Javascript. :-)

If you'd like to help, and are not yet a member of pmdev, you may message the gods to ask to be added.

Update:

In order to support expedited development of the CSS and JS bits, I have set up a wonki, mobile css and javascript, which contains the CSS and JS used by the mobile site. This is temporary; when the CSS and JS have stabilized, I'll move their respective code into the fullpages linked above. If you would like to try hacking on the CSS and/or JS, let me know and I'll add you to the wonki. But I want to keep the number of writers small, to minimize collisions. Wonkis work like wikis. :-)

I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

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Re: Development of PerlMonks "Mobile" is now open for business
by LanX (Saint) on Oct 24, 2019 at 15:09 UTC
    I'd suggest to restrict reading of the inner scriptorium to cabals or pmdev only.

    Like this we can better discuss bigger changes and organisational and security stuff.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

      I think, if it's going to be that sensitive, maybe just start a thread under pmdev.

        I already started sensible threads in pmdev and people - including the gods - lost track when they got longer.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

Re: Development of PerlMonks "Mobile" is now open for business
by LanX (Saint) on Feb 15, 2020 at 02:06 UTC
    Sorry, mobile only pages are already out.

    State of the art is to have an adaptive design for all clients.

    These are based on JS/CSS frameworks like bootstrap.

    Tobyink already did a nodelet hack to demo PM on bootstrap ( PerlMonks meets Twitter Bootstrap) and I know at least 2 regulars (Your Mother,choroba) using it on a daily basis.

    IMHO should something like this be our approach - not necessarily bootstrap & jQuery, but similar.

    I would have preferred to have this discussion in a less public board, alas there is no alternative.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      IMHO should something like this be our approach

      I don't disagree. But I have nowhere near the chops to implement it myself. Other expertise will have to step up and help. :-)

      I would have preferred to have this discussion in a less public board, alas there is no alternative.

      You can start a thread on the pmdev page. That has all the confidentiality we need, I think.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
        > You can start a thread on the pmdev page.

        Unfortunately we are turning in circles...

        ... pmdev threads quickly become unreadable.

        I.E. without RAT support and/or messages.

        > > IMHO should something like this be our approach

        > I don't disagree.

        I'll create a showcase.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      State of the art is to have an adaptive design for all clients.

      Absolutely!

      And it's not exactly difficult...although it can be a fit fiddly and time consuming

      As a newbie here I am amazed at how difficult posting, navigating and commenting is, especially on mobile. Having to put HTML markup in is a bit like being back in the 1990's.

      A good start would surely be to put a viewport tag in and disable the right hand block on low screen widths with a CSS media selector. It wouldn't help commenting but would immediately improve the display of all nodes.

      The lack of a modern, responsive and simple site does nothing to dispel the image of Perl being old fashioned, outdated and obsolete.

        I love the charming anachronisms of old school websites. Perlmonk's pages are available as XML so writing new client apps is really easy. Minor tweaks to accomodate mobile also seems wise.
Re: Development of PerlMonks "Mobile" is now open for business
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 25, 2019 at 09:27 UTC
    First screen full is all boiler plate. At the moment /bare/ and desktop are both looking better in chrome on a horizontal phone.

      That's because virtually no work has been done on it. Are you volunteering? Or just complaining?

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