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Re^3: Put the formatting information above the posting text box?

by ambrus (Abbot)
on May 22, 2016 at 19:16 UTC ( #1163801=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Put the formatting information above the posting text box?
in thread Put the formatting information above the posting text box?

Indeed. I wish the formatting toolbar could be enabled by default, with a setting to turn it off, but alas, it is not so (yet).

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Re^4: Put the formatting information above the posting text box?
by stevieb (Canon) on May 22, 2016 at 20:12 UTC

    Yeah, the whole idea was for noobs, in hopes they may actually read it before posting. I might say put a brief on "how to format your post" with a button that leads one to the posting box, but I'm sure that'd be shot down as just a hindrance. However, perhaps it'd make sense if it was shown only for those who are either anonymonk, or first-time posters (or people with a monk level < N who have had consideration against them for improper formatting in the past).

    I've never seen the PM code nor its DB, so I would have no idea if such a thing was even possible (or at least reasonably feasible).

      It might be possible, but it's futile. No matter what you do, you can't get most newbies to read the instructions. After a level, it just doesn't matter how obviously you present the instructions, people will just ignore them no matter what.

        They may, but it might have even a slight impact. I like the idea of codifying some form of validation like ww said in Re: Put the formatting information above the posting text box?, but that might be a bit too heavy-handed without some serious thought. However, a check for things like sub \w+ { or $\w+ = and such could notify a user after submit and prior to post that they may have code that hasn't been wrapped in <c></c> tags, etc.

        Clearly, I don't want to lose new people to PM because of restraints/constraints, but on the other hand, if we can't/don't change how we post on PerlMonks, perhaps we should consider a new avenue of approach... an appreciation of sorts. 'Come to PM to be part of a community and learn, not just get your immediate question answered.".

        There have to be some out there who still appreciate being part of a community; not just blindly answering questions that have to be precise and perfect in every way, without any means or facility for discussion.

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