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Re^2: Terminal decline?

by Your Mother (Archbishop)
on Jun 12, 2015 at 20:31 UTC ( [id://1130238]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Terminal decline?
in thread Terminal decline?

Then maybe you ought to read some old nodes. Plenty of acrimony and offense and monks leaving in anger after fights back then. sundialsvc4 has skated for years without posting a single piece of code that would compile or help another user while hand-waving paragraph after paragraph with enough buzzwords that it was impossible for a casual reader to know if the advice was truth or fluff. Fine, but at the same time going on and on about decades of experience and competence and range of skills…? No, not cool. It’s not bullying to call it out. I gave at least two warnings that I was about to start doing so. This isn’t a social site. It’s a professional forum for a scientific/engineering pursuit. SO would downvote every bit of it into oblivion without a scrap of the tolerance and attempts to kindly correct the path found here.

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Re^3: Terminal decline?
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 12, 2015 at 20:37 UTC
    Oh, there's probably another term for following someone around every time he posts something to pile on. Can't think of it. Stocking? Probably something that sounds like that.

    But I wouldn't want to disturb BuK's narrative.

      Oh, there's probably another term for following someone around every time he posts something to pile on. Can't think of it. Stocking? Probably something that sounds like that. But I wouldn't want to disturb BuK's narrative.

      There is no following. All new nodes show up Recent Threads and Newest Nodes. If you stop posting excrement, people will stop telling you to flush it.

        Actually it's about ethics in victim blaming!

      *Stalking.

      The technical forum supporting the kind of social policies you're looking for is here.

Re^3: Terminal decline?
by Argel (Prior) on Apr 02, 2018 at 15:47 UTC
    The difference is with fewer Monks, the vitriol is far more obvious. Especially in PMD. Like when Sundial responded in the thread about supporting HTTPS. It's been several months since I've been here, and seeing the pointless vitriol in that thread -- it feels like it's time to write PM off as a lost cause.

    There was the hack attack and joke of a response, gods encouraging a troll for close to a year, and the BrowserUK vs. the gods incident. All of these leave a bad taste in my mouth and are clear indicators that leadership at the top is the biggest issue.

    Sundial's presence doesn't help any either, but the users responding so negatively to his posts, even undermining legitimate posts like HTTPS highlight the real problem. And to make it worse, regular Monks are involved in this vitriol, including some with higher levels of access than most have, which once again highlights the lack of leadership.

    BrowserUK, I know you have more invested in this site than most, but at this point the only realistic path forward is to create a new site or join a better (modern features, community that is growing) site.

    Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
    My deviantART gallery

      I guess the fact that sundial continues to generate activity here, even when he isn't actively courting controversy, could be viewed as a boost to participation.

      My informal gut feel is that his past activities underly about 50% of this week's posts in one way or another.

      T'is sad to see the bones of this place picked over this way :( I truly miss it.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". The enemy of (IT) success is complexity.
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Suck that fhit
        There are two problem hypotheses
        • A "decline" of Perl
        • A "decline" of PM
        To prove the latter we should compare the amount of Perl threads on other boards (especially SO) in the same time-frame.

        I personally think the 90's interface of PM is not overly attractive for younger folks ...

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      I don't care much about the fluff SD is producing, nor about his peculiar text emphasizes .

      The problem is that SD is binding a lot of energy to correct his "advices", which are often enough plain dangerous.

      see also All you need to know about SundialSvc4

      The vitriol you observe is just self-defense in form of sarcasm.

      I could link to at least 20 honourable regulars who repeatedly and politely told him to stop spreading cheap propaganda and asked for proof for his broad claims. All for vain.

      update

      The fact that he threatened to sue the monastery is IMHO reason enough to ban him. This is a non-profit platform, we can only invite guests who are no danger to the others.

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      What is your proposed fix to this "lack of leadership"? Instituting a Zero-Tolerance policy towards intolerance?

        This is far better than the comment on the same point I wrote and roundfiled. And the second try I wrote and treated similarly. And people say I have no self-restraint. If you are the user I believe you to be, you're missed (as a named monk). If not, nice impersonation!

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