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Re^2: [OT] How about an Off Topic Section?

by jdporter (Paladin)
on Jun 09, 2015 at 16:18 UTC ( [id://1129675]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: [OT] How about an Off Topic Section?
in thread [OT] How about an Off Topic Section?

Thank you for your thoughtful commentary.

It seems to me that what you've done is argue for allowing off-topic posts -- which is something we already do. We generally don't allow unconstrained topics, as you know. You say you want an OT section not limited in any way; yet then you admit that the moderation system could and should be used to gate-keep the postings.

What you haven't done is argue why we should have a new separate section for OT.

I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

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Re^3: [OT] How about an Off Topic Section?
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Jun 09, 2015 at 16:33 UTC

    You sort of answer the question yourself. There is ambiguity and day-to-day, monk-to-monk subjectivity in OT posts now. An OT section would fix that. I am not convinced it’s a good idea either and my response, and your musing, sort of answers that: to remove the subjectivity, OT would have to be anything goes and that probably wouldn’t work out well.

      An OT section would fix that.

      Help me see how it would. Either way, the poster is faced with the same question: Is this post off-topic? If she answers 'yes', then she puts it in the OT section or puts "[OT]" in the title (depending on which way we go). Moderators/janitors can change (override) the poster's determination. How is one more or less subjective than the other?

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

        The mods don’t change it and it doesn’t have OT in the title, it’s a template prefix. Either there is objectively a wide-open OT section or it would be pointless to pretend it’s different. It would only ever be modded for the usual suspects: pr0n, legality, such. Again, I’m not convinced it’s helpful for the monastery. I feel like OT has worked pretty well so far as is and I know after being here for years that there are plenty of monks who I enjoy immensely as programmer peers and acquaintances but would not get along with in real life where real life is three-nines off topic. :P

Re^3: [OT] How about an Off Topic Section?
by salva (Canon) on Jun 09, 2015 at 20:44 UTC
    Currently, OT posts are merely tolerated. I am in favor of a OT section because that would mean they are actually promoted.

      Sure, they're currently "tolerated" in the sense that undoubtedly somebody will show up to point out they're OT -- heck i've pointed it out myself

      And I'm sure they'll get plenty of downvotes for being OT

      If there was an official OT section, I agree , it would be promotional, and anyone complaining about it would be OT

        And I'm sure they'll get plenty of downvotes for being OT

        Checking the most recent posts marked "OT", we get vote tallies of:

        +4-6, +4-5, +3-4, +2-4 +2-2 +2-1, +7-1, +9-1, +12-0, +14-1, +15-1, +16-0, +18-0, +18-1, +18-1, +18-1, +20-1, +24-0, +26-3, +26-3, +28-0, +32-1, +48-0

        Only 17% even managed to garner a negative reputation, and each of those just barely so. And I'd guess that 2 of those 4 were down-voted mostly for reasons other than being off-topic.

        Your certainty appears to be unfounded.

        - tye        

      But what are you trying to promote? Your politics? Because that is what will happen. A bunch of monks advocating and arguing about political causes.

      We do not need an OT section because we need more posts about Perl. Not less.

        Well, I have the opinion that when you get together a group of people with some common interest they would probably have interesting (for them) conversations about things both related and unrelated to that common interest.

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